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The Two Most Embarrassing Plays of The Day = The Reason Chud Should've Already Been Canned.


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#1 Proudiddy

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:13 PM

QB Draw on 3rd down that Von Miller hit Cam on and made him fold and crumple up like a piece of wrapping paper on Christmas.

The read option to Stew in which Miller again hit Stew like he was a stationary tackling dummy and caused him to fumble.

Both plays branch off of the read option, or at least pose the threat of it before the snap... Both plays failed miserably. No way someone should be able to get a clean hit like that on Cam or Stew and bring them down that easily.

Not only has the read option been exposed for the gimmick that it is, but it greatly hinders and reduces our chances for success on each play with this offense. It slows down the momentum of both Cam and the RB due to the split second of hesitation it requires to sell the option. On pass plays, it removes most of the rhythm required for a QB to get comfortable, drop back, see the defense and throw. Cam can't dropback and read the defense that often because defenders are pushing upfield and collapsing in on the pocket due to the read option fake. By the time he drops back, the time he should've had to read a defense has been cut almost in half.

Just really amazed that Chud is still here.

#2 Kral

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:15 PM

Just really amazed that Chud is still here.


He won't be for long.

#3 koolkatluke

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:16 PM

QB Draw on 3rd down that Von Miller hit Cam on and made him fold and crumple up like a piece of wrapping paper on Christmas.

The read option to Stew in which Miller again hit Stew like he was a stationary tackling dummy and caused him to fumble.

Both plays branch off of the read option, or at least pose the threat of it before the snap... Both plays failed miserably. No way someone should be able to get a clean hit like that on Cam or Stew and bring them down that easily.

Not only has the read option been exposed for the gimmick that it is, but it greatly hinders and reduces our chances for success on each play with this offense. It slows down the momentum of both Cam and the RB due to the split second of hesitation it requires to sell the option. On pass plays, it removes most of the rhythm required for a QB to get comfortable, drop back, see the defense and throw. Cam can't dropback and read the defense that often because defenders are pushing upfield and collapsing in on the pocket due to the read option fake. By the time he drops back, the time he should've had to read a defense has been cut almost in half.

Just really amazed that Chud is still here.


Great Post from a true panther Fan. Not these punkass trolls that have infested this site.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:16 PM

He won't be for long.


I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if he was gone before midnight tonight.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:17 PM

I said in the chat room that was the most embarrassing play I ever saw.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:18 PM

The first scoring drive had some runs, some shorter passes to Olsen and some play action.
Then we abandoned all that completely.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:19 PM

QB Draw on 3rd down that Von Miller hit Cam on and made him fold and crumple up like a piece of wrapping paper on Christmas.

The read option to Stew in which Miller again hit Stew like he was a stationary tackling dummy and caused him to fumble.

Both plays branch off of the read option, or at least pose the threat of it before the snap... Both plays failed miserably. No way someone should be able to get a clean hit like that on Cam or Stew and bring them down that easily.

Not only has the read option been exposed for the gimmick that it is, but it greatly hinders and reduces our chances for success on each play with this offense. It slows down the momentum of both Cam and the RB due to the split second of hesitation it requires to sell the option. On pass plays, it removes most of the rhythm required for a QB to get comfortable, drop back, see the defense and throw. Cam can't dropback and read the defense that often because defenders are pushing upfield and collapsing in on the pocket due to the read option fake. By the time he drops back, the time he should've had to read a defense has been cut almost in half.

Just really amazed that Chud is still here.


I agree Chud should be fired tonite but,

I believe Greg Olsen was blocking Miller on both those plays........................

and wiffed.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:20 PM

The thing I don't like about the read option is that the offensive line doesn't really know whether they're run-blocking or pass-protecting because the read is made during the play. It seems destined for failure.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:24 PM

The first scoring drive had some runs, some shorter passes to Olsen and some play action.
Then we abandoned all that completely.

Yup and I'm not saying Cam was faultless, he was at some points... But, I don't understand how any knowledgeable football fan can watch these games and say he's our problem. He's probably the second least behind our WRs.

It all starts with the playcalling.

The OL was again exposed for how horrible it was and got Cam pounded all day long. Chud compounds the problem because he is so stubborn and insists on going against the grain... He just kept running read option variations and passing plays with long developing routes.

Look at what Manning did. We took away all the deep stuff and look what he did... Dinked and dunked his way to like 17 of 18 passes in the first half. Then when the tide shifted he started taking his big shots.

It's simple. It only requires a fundamental understanding of football, which Chud apparently doesn't have.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:24 PM

I agree Chud should be fired tonite but,

I believe Greg Olsen was blocking Miller on both those plays........................

and wiffed.


I know it was Olsen's on the one when Cam got hit. The other one was Barnidge I believe. If we're talking about the same play, Barney totally whiffed on his block.

Olsen is a bad blocker. Barnidge makes Olsen look like Mike Ditka.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:25 PM

Should have kept running the RB screens til they backed the FUG up!!!

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:29 PM

Should have kept running the RB screens til they backed the FUG up!!!

But that is another problem IMO. Yes, the screens worked but it was because Denver just didn't care if they gave them to us.

Chud just doesn't mix it up. We can't continually rely on a play that starts with a pass at the LOS or behind it to get us out of jams. He doesn't offer any variation... Why no slants? Drag routes? Spacing/hook routes? More passes coming out of a trips formation?

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:41 PM

The thing I don't like about the read option is that the offensive line doesn't really know whether they're run-blocking or pass-protecting because the read is made during the play. It seems destined for failure.


It's a fumble or injury just waiting to happen every time

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:48 PM

Our only two successful drives had heavy doses of run, screens, passes to Olsen and other quick passes. When that was our gameplan we marched down the field. When he started calling these long developing plays they got blown up by the pass rush because the O-line can't sustain blocking for more than 1.5 seconds.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:56 PM

Particularly sad that our head coach doesnt have a clue about effective offensive playcalling


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