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#91 MHS831

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:34 PM

not sure how i missed it, but this post is just beautiful.

what if...just what if this is the case?

props to you sir.

Very nice of you to say that. I would love to be wrong. However, when I state that Cam never audibles, the huggers dispute my argument by stating, "He is not allowed to!" He is not allowed to call audibles because the people closest to his abilities do not feel confident letting him do it. That alone is a huge statement about his intelligence. ANY coach would LOVE to give that power to their QB.

Please prove me wrong Cam. However, I know that, right now, you are not a smart QB. If anyone knows football and can look at this objectively, it breaks your heart. He is an immature, selfish, unintelligent loner.

When I see him crowd the OL around him on the sideline, when I see the coaches chatting with him after an interception or a big drive, when I see the other players rally to his defense, when coaches give him responsibility....I will know he has come of age. Anyone who defends him as he sits alone with a towel over his head on the bench affer his 11th three and out needs to watch some film on Brady and Peyton.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:52 PM

However, when I state that Cam never audibles, the huggers dispute my argument by stating, "He is not allowed to!"


He audibled the 3rd offensive play this year against Tampa. I'm sure there are more examples; I just happened to see that play last night.

At some point he was obviously told to stop. Your take on that is it's due to his stupidity.

Based on what we've seen this year, Chud may be the one with the intelligence issues.

#93 MHS831

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:09 AM

He audibled the 3rd offensive play this year against Tampa. I'm sure there are more examples; I just happened to see that play last night.

At some point he was obviously told to stop. Your take on that is it's due to his stupidity.

Based on what we've seen this year, Chud may be the one with the intelligence issues.

Chud would look stupid if the QB does not know enough to check out of a play or to call a play that is open. Who knows, but at least we seem to agree that not calling audibles is a sign of a lack of football IQ. I do not know of any reason other than ignorance that the benefit of calling audibles would be removed from an NFL QB.
To say that not calling audibles is due to the ignorance of the offensive coordinator and not the player on the field is probably a symptom of denial.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:21 AM


To say that not calling audibles is due to the ignorance of the offensive coordinator and not the player on the field is probably a symptom of denial.


Then you've watched different games than I have this year. How you could evaluate our play calling and deem that the work of a rational man is beyond me.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:34 AM

Chud would look stupid if the QB does not know enough to check out of a play or to call a play that is open. Who knows, but at least we seem to agree that not calling audibles is a sign of a lack of football IQ. I do not know of any reason other than ignorance that the benefit of calling audibles would be removed from an NFL QB.
To say that not calling audibles is due to the ignorance of the offensive coordinator and not the player on the field is probably a symptom of denial.


ben grubbs said joe flacco wasn't able to audible in 2011 and cam cameron's answer when confronted about it was a bunch of coach speak that didn't answer the question:

http://baltimorespor...ible-30138.html

young quarterbacks aren't given full control of the offense very often.

#96 MHS831

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:39 PM

Then you've watched different games than I have this year. How you could evaluate our play calling and deem that the work of a rational man is beyond me.

Are you comparing your opinion of good play calling to coaches who have QBs that audible? Do you not think that play calling 30 seconds before the snap is much less successful than plays called after the defense reveals itself? Been watching the same games as you--I agree the play calling sucks. However, do you know how often Chud would change the play if he could?

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:45 PM

ben grubbs said joe flacco wasn't able to audible in 2011 and cam cameron's answer when confronted about it was a bunch of coach speak that didn't answer the question:

http://baltimorespor...ible-30138.html

young quarterbacks aren't given full control of the offense very often.


Andrew Luck has a 2-14 team that was rebuilding at 6-3. He audibles and is smart.

RGIIII audibles and the Skins offense is eplosive--complettion rate over 70%-he audibles and is smart.

The Ravens have never been known for their offensive prowess and Flacco has not lived up to his potential..

I did say that Cam is not a smart QB now. That is not to say that he will not grow and learn, nor is it to say that he is the only one who does not audible because he is not smart.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:57 PM

Are you comparing your opinion of good play calling to coaches who have QBs that audible? Do you not think that play calling 30 seconds before the snap is much less successful than plays called after the defense reveals itself? Been watching the same games as you--I agree the play calling sucks. However, do you know how often Chud would change the play if he could?


We agree that a system utilizing pre-snap adjustments and audibles is by far superior. So the question is, why aren't we doing it?

All I know is plays are coming into the huddle with less than 12 seconds on the play clock, and when they break the huddle, there is often 8 seconds or less to read the defense. That does not seem ideal to me.

I've also noted that our offense seems more efficient running 2 minute or no huddle drills when more is put on the QB rather than less.

These questions likely won't be answered until we can see this offense under a different staff, so all we can do right now is wait and speculate.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:19 PM

Cam is a very green QB. We knew that when we drafted him, people obviously forgot because he was an athletic freak last year. Once the Mental aspect of the game catches up to his physical abilities, the league better watch the hell out.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:10 PM

We agree that a system utilizing pre-snap adjustments and audibles is by far superior. So the question is, why aren't we doing it?

All I know is plays are coming into the huddle with less than 12 seconds on the play clock, and when they break the huddle, there is often 8 seconds or less to read the defense. That does not seem ideal to me.

I've also noted that our offense seems more efficient running 2 minute or no huddle drills when more is put on the QB rather than less.

These questions likely won't be answered until we can see this offense under a different staff, so all we can do right now is wait and speculate.

And that fact burns me up. He is trying to pre-snap read from the booth, by watching personnel?
I am with you on every word. I think the new GM needs to consider that Cam could be special with the right coach and hire the right coach for Cam. It is a QB league, and nobody we could draft has more upside.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:21 PM

I personally would love this idea. A year ago chud was a genius and we were begging teams not to steal our game planner. now he's poo and doesnt deserve the job. Gotta love the huddle.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:25 AM

I personally would love this idea. A year ago chud was a genius and we were begging teams not to steal our game planner. now he's poo and doesnt deserve the job. Gotta love the huddle.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 09:29 AM

Don't you think that he would be allowed to call audibles if the coaches felt more confident in his intellingence? Think it through and get back to me.


It's not Cam's intelligence I'm questioning.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:29 AM

are we really believing this.?

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:30 AM

this franchise has more class than let something leak on a social network.


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