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#131 TonyN

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 06:01 PM

4.5 seconds on a 3rd and 19 where his underneath "quick" option didn't break on his route until he was 18 yards down the field. Newton was hit just as his underneath route turned his head to the QB because the offensive line you trumpet as being so good couldn't defend a four man rush - even with some added help. Both sideline routes were completely blanketed.

Here you go - to help you count.

You also would have had a post going 2 minutes later if he'd thrown it out of bounds, bemoaning his inability to convert on 3rd down.


First of all I have never said that Carolina's offensive line is "good"...just that it is not nearly as bad as some screamin' mimi's on this forum have suggested...

The slot receiver is not really making a "cut"...he is simply feeling for the soft spot in the zone coverage...go back and look at the stills again...after Newton checks off his initial read...or if the look was a disguise...he can go with the football over the top of the linebackers to the inside of the slot receiver at any point in the play after about 1.5 seconds....instead he somewaht nonchalantly looks off that receiver as well and looks to the other outside receiver...

At this point He JUST HAS TO FEEL THE PRESSURE and unload the football...

The topside flanker has a decent cushion right before his break, but whether or not this existed at the point Newton checked to him is unclear...

But it does not matter...Newton can just unload the football out of bounds at this point...no harm, no foul...

And LOL...Newton's woes on third down are NOT the result of many 3rd and 19 situations...

Check out his stats on, say, 3rd and < 6 or 3rd and 3-7...brutal...

And if you get 4.5 seconds with a clean pocket from your own end zone...

You CANNOT take a saftey...

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 06:33 PM

There was also supposed to be a check down that never made it out there. I am not sure whether he missed the call or just got trapped inside, but there was supposed to be a guy outside and short for a checkdown if needed.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:40 PM

There was also supposed to be a check down that never made it out there. I am not sure whether he missed the call or just got trapped inside, but there was supposed to be a guy outside and short for a checkdown if needed.


Yeah, Tolbert was one of those 7 Panthers milling around in the end zone. He was supposed to leak out, but for whatever reason decided to stay back with the others. I can't say he stayed in to block, because whatever those 7 guys were doing couldn't be called blocking.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:43 PM

Everyone will be a lot happier when this offense starts producing.

Only then will people stop judging every little thing that Cam says or does

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:46 PM

why can't it be both? just because that wasn't the case in that scenario doesn't mean it's not the case often.

the playcalling sucks AND the OL sucks AND cam needs to be smarter and get the ball out quicker.


Get the ball out quicker to receivers that are running 15 yard routes?

#136 Marc Anthony

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:56 PM

This is why I do not like the OC up in the booth, on other teams, you see the OC, QB coach on the sidelines after every series talking over the play book, pumping up the O-line etc...and actually COACHING the quarterback!!! How hard is it!!!!

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:10 PM

The Peyton Manning comparisons or expectations are a bit much as well.
Careful of what you hope for, you might not want it. True, Manning has always put up gawdy regular season numbers.
Let's look Post Season and see what you get with the quickest release in town.
Peyton first started in Indy during 1998.
From 1998 to 2005 the Colts made the Playoffs 6 times.
The Colts, and Manning compiled a Post Season record of 2 wins and 6 losses during that time.
Finally in 2006 the Colts broke thriough for their lone Super Bowl winning run. One great complete year start to finish, well done.
Then we go back to more of the same from 2007 until 2010.
4 Playoff appearances and a 2 win, 4 loss record when it truly counts including a 31-17 drubbing by the Aints in the SB..
All tolled so far in his career Peyton Manning has 7 One and Dones in the Post Season. One great Post Season year.

I dont care how Cam gets it done, whether it's pretty or ugly I hope Cam and the Panthers do a better job performing Crunch Time than Peyton or the Colts ever did.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:17 PM

4.5 seconds on a 3rd and 19 where his underneath "quick" option didn't break on his route until he was 18 yards down the field. Newton was hit just as his underneath route turned his head to the QB because the offensive line you trumpet as being so good couldn't defend a four man rush - even with some added help. Both sideline routes were completely blanketed.

Here you go - to help you count.

You also would have had a post going 2 minutes later if he'd thrown it out of bounds, bemoaning his inability to convert on 3rd down.


4.5 seconds is a lot of time.

i'm curious why he didn't decide to run out of the endzone 2-2.5 seconds into the play when he should have realized he'd been standing there too long.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:52 AM

4.5 seconds is a lot of time.

i'm curious why he didn't decide to run out of the endzone 2-2.5 seconds into the play when he should have realized he'd been standing there too long.

'Cause he saw two LB's standing right behind the line of scrimmage throughout the play...check the stills again...

The Bronco's faked an inside blitz and dropped two linebackers into a very shallow zone.

Newton was right not to run, cause he was going nowhere...teams are just not going to let him beat them that way...not anymore...not if they can help it

His mistake was in not hitting the obvious vacant area in the middle of the zone...where there was an open receiver...

He should have been looking to his slot receiver immediately...he is clearly open and looking for the ball at the 2 second mark and Newton inexplicably looks him off...well it is not inexplicable really...Newton seems to think every pass needs to be a frozen rope...

"touch" on short and intermediate routes is not exactly his his strong point...LOL

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:08 AM

Zomg why didn't Cam get back up off the ground and hit the open receiver I see right there in that picture!!! What a bum!


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