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How long does Cam Newton get a pass?

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If the Panthers keep losing beyond this season, despite coaching and player changes, where does the buck stop?

I'm asking this because I've read a lot of posts of fans defending Cam, blaming the O-Line, saying he's out there trying to do it alone and he needs help. There is some validity to that and he's definitely earned some time to get it right in Carolina. A new coaching staff with some upgrades at key positions might be enough to turn it around.

But what would it take for you to say he's not the answer? When does he stop getting a "pass". Two, three more seasons of the same results we've seen this past season + 1/2?

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I don't think he's getting one now, at least not from everyone.

Yes there are "everybody's fault but Cam's" posters, but while they may be more vocal, I don't know that they're more numerous.

Granted, I could be wrong. That's just the view from where I sit.

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He's not getting a pass. There are just a lot of people who can look at this and say that, while Cam DOES have areas he can improve on drastically, he is not even in our top three problems right now. His own flaws as a young player are being magnified by the extremely poor support he has from both his coaches and the rest of the offense.

I, and I hope everyone else, are a long way from giving up on a player like that who has obviously been mishandled / badly coached. I mean it is extremely telling to me that he was mechanically a better player with no offseason when the coaches didn't get a chance to screw with him. Not speaking on results but on the mechanics of how he plays the game. He himself was a better player without this staff's interference.

I'll start to wonder about him if the trend continues with good coaching. Not before.

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We are nowhere near ready to give up on him. He has shown tremendous 'flashes' and in my opinion, just needs a better coach and blocking to be a Top 10 guy every week.

Simone noticed this last week, Cam never gets coaching on the sideline. This to me is a terrible sign. He should have a coach with him whenever he isn't in the game.

I'd say he has a minimum of 2 more full seasons.

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I think the new GM should give him a full season and a half honestly, if he doesn't start winning by then then you start looking at other options

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I don't think he's getting one now, at least not from everyone.

Yes there are "everybody's fault but Cam's" posters, but while they may be more vocal, I don't know that they're more numerous.

he's a part of the problem. most acknowledge this, but they also ackknowledge that it's just a part of the problem and one that can be fixed with time, experience, a better system, and better coaching (and maybe a sports psychologist).

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Probably the end of next season.

He will not get a pass from me, just like every other player out there.

This year most have given up, but next season will be very telling. If there is no dramatic improvement, it will be time to move on.

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it's only a 4 year contract that was only worth $25mil.

if it's not a good fit, then we move on.

it's all up to jerry, tho.

if he wants cam to stay he's gonna have to 1)pay the man more than any QB out there and 2) put a team and coaching staff around him that will win and make him want to stay (which should be happening right nw anyway).

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He definitely gets another season to see if he can bounce back from this sophomore slump. Heck, even the season after that. But if the next two are like this one, we can either move on or keep him. But one thing will be certain, and that will be that he's not an elite QB. Hopefully that won't be the case.

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