How long does Cam Newton get a pass?
Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:21 PM
We can't even run the friggin ball! All of a sudden DWill and Stew are garbage too?!? Pffffft.
Yes Cam Newton gets a pass, A BIG PASS.
Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:22 PM
game manager with the freedom to run when he sees a hole.
the problem is, i think he's a gunslinger. i love gunslingers...when it works. i hate game managers...unless it's necessary. gunslingers don't always fit into the game manger mold anymore than game managers can fit into the gunslinger mindset.
Legit concern. Henning tried that with Delhomme in early 2005 and the results were awful. Once they let him go back to being what he naturally was, things got better.
Understand the notion. Just not sure it can work.
Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:24 PM
Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:35 PM
A young QB's best friend is a running game.
The Panthers have neither.
Some of it he brings on himself, he does not get stepping into the pocket and if it's not there throw it away...or if you are going to run run...don't think about it...do it.
My biggest concern with him is he seems very detached from his team mates, very detached from his coaches and this isn't a 'me' game. A strong coach would not tolerate that. That too, is part of the problem. Things seldom go the way they are suppose to in life, pick yourself up, put your big boy pants on and move forward. I do not know if this is something that can be taught or not.
Speaking honestly, and this pains me as I wanted him here, I have not one belief that would ever make a play to help get the Panthers in that game yesterday.
He gets his rookie contract and if he is no better, in the Not For Long League, the Panthers will move on.
I trust the new GM will hire the coach to do the evaluations.
Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:39 PM
Even then, Peyton and Eli Manning had their regressive years in their 4th seasons.
Three years just like any other rookie. If he doesn't show improvement by then, we move on.
I mean if Cam actually regresses further next season then maybe you start thinking about other options, but if he has a season like this season then you continue to develop him into his fourth year and maybe bring in some competition at that point.
And although he isn't playing elite level QB yet, he isn't playing like absolute garbage either. He is still likely to have 20+ total TDs (passing and rushing) and complete @60% of his passes. Truth be told he has just been pretty average this year. But IMO he hasn't been bad enough to start doing a bunch of had wringing over. YET.
Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:08 PM
Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:30 PM
Cam exploded last year and held up a team with a horrible defense. This year? Teams have adjusted and the PANTHERS (not just Cam, but yea he's a part of it) have not adjusted. They are paying almost 90 million to RBs they don't use. The offensive protection is pathetic, and the QB and receivers are extremely inconsistent.
If you want to win in the NFL, you need to run an NFL offense. We are NOT running one. Cam isn't getting a pass, he makes some bone-headed throws, and his mechanics are off. But if you can't see the big picture you're a bit lost here. We have no base run game at all. Even New England with Tom Brady can throw the ball 50 times, but even they have a base run game. Its pathetic coaching.
And I if you cannot protect the QB, you WILL NOT WIN. Period. Did Cam hold on too long a times? He sure did, but go back and watch that game. There are times where he never even has a shot in hell. Its brutal. The entire offense needs to be shut down and built back up. We will never win with the current scheme they are running.
Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:41 PM
When you look at the things that have changed from our top 5 offense of last year vs. this year, the top thing is the scheme and the plays. Not the QB.
Nobody thinks that Stewart and Williams suddenly started sucking because they only get 68 yards. That would be a silly thing to think, when it's so obvious it's the result of the playcalling. And it's equally silly to blame it on Cam.
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