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#1 Urrymonster

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:44 PM

Natural to over react after the game yesterday, but here is some food for thought.

Against Denver, when Cam was not pressured:
27 drop backs
Completed 19 of 26 passes (73.1%)
225 yards (8.7/attempt)
2 touchdowns to 1 interception
108.7 QB rating

When Cam was pressured:
18 drop backs
Completed 2 of 10 passes (20%)
16 yards (1.6/attempt)
0 TDs to 1 interception
0.0 QB rating

At the time of watching I felt that Cam was playing pretty poorly, but he was pressured on 40% of plays, not sure many QBs can play well under that pressure. Some were on him, some on the play called, some on the wide receivers and some on the blocking up front. The point is though that Cam can very much do the job when he has a pocket to work in. This is representative of his season so far, although has has made progressive improvement this season when he has time to throw. Interestingly he faired better against the blitz, suggesting that when our front 5 struggle with the opposing DLine, then we are in trouble. Big time.

For those saying he holds onto the ball too long would cry murder for him throwing into coverage rather than taking the sack. He does at times hold on for too long, but it really isn't all on him. Cam really needs to use his check downs more and perhaps struggles to identify where pressure is coming from, but that is something that comes with experience.

#2 carolina-chuck

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:45 PM

I didn't read anything but yea Fans need to shut up about Cam.

#3 King Taharqa

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:45 PM

Cam is the most convenient scapegoat for fans of a bad franchise.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:47 PM

Right now Cam is a sub par QB playing behind a god awful line.

There were plenty of times Cam was pressured only because he held the ball way too long.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:48 PM

How many of those pressure were do to Cam holding on to the ball too long, missing his reads, or not calling the right protections?

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:48 PM

Well I for one am shocked that the QB of a bad football team is getting his share of blame.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:48 PM

Cam does nor help the situation (I believe later he will), but a good QB would make the protection calls, find the hot route to make the defense pay for bringing that kind of pressure... UNTIL you make defense pay for being disrespectful with the defense they play you will face constant pressure.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:50 PM

Well I for one am shocked that the QB of a bad football team is getting his share of blame.


I for one am shocked that a team that bombed from the jump with Kerry Collins and has never developed a QB in 17 years, is struggling to support their pro bowl franchise QB.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:50 PM

Kalil was a loss

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:52 PM

Kalil was a loss


And the continued denial and passive attitude of Jordan Gross decline in play and bloated salary is a loss too.

#11 Urrymonster

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:53 PM

Right now Cam is a sub par QB playing behind a god awful line.

There were plenty of times Cam was pressured only because he held the ball way too long.


Yeah that is probably a good way of describing it. However he is still showing signs that he is VERY good when things are right and what he is struggling with will come with experience. At the start of the year he couldn't complete passes even when he had time. He has most definitely improved and when he has time is playing better than he did last year. When he doesn't not so much...

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:55 PM

I havent seen Cam call out protections, identify the blitzer or anything like that at all this year. What is the reason for that? Is it just that he is too dumb...or is it something the coaches just dont allow. And how about an audible every once and a while?

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:55 PM

Any QB in the league can make the passes when there isn't pressure and the wideout is wide open. Unfortunately, those plays are rare in this league. Good QB's make the passes when there is pressure and when there is less room to put the pass.

Manning had plenty of pressure yesterday, he just knows how to move in the pocket and throw off his front foot.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:56 PM

I love the whole Cam isn't playing bad because x,y, or z is also playing bad argument.

#15 King Taharqa

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:57 PM

Manning had plenty of pressure yesterday


No he didnt. Manning rarely was pressured. Same for Russell Wilson earlier this year, same for Eli, same for Josh Freeman, same for Romo. Its been a constant theme for QBs this season.


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