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The Myth of Cam Newton under pressure dispelled


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#1 TonyN

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:16 PM

http://www.nfl.com/s...&qualified=true


These stats are sortable...

Just go to the final two columns to allow some of the complete bombast you have read on this forum to sink in...

Cam Newton has been hit 35 times this season...

Mike Vick?? 77 !!!
RG III ?? 51 !!!
Andrew Luck ?? 60 !!!
Cutler ?? 51 !!!
Rodgers ?? 48 !!!
Ryan ?? 47 !!!
Gabbert ?? 47 !!!

As a matter of fact, Cam Newton has been hit the 12th FEWEST times of any QB in the NFL this season...

Now let's hear it...
Why these numbers really don't apply to Cam...
Why Cam is "different"
Why these stats don't mean anything...

#2 Bwood

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:19 PM

They really haven't played THAT badly, I honestly think Gross is the weakest player on the line when we're completely healthy.

The only reason Gross should be around next season is to be a leader/teacher.

#3 Floppin

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:23 PM

They really haven't played THAT badly, I honestly think Gross is the weakest player on the line when we're completely healthy.

The only reason Gross should be around next season is to be a leader/teacher.


Hangartner is, by far, the worst lineman we have.

#4 Bwood

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:25 PM

Hangartner is, by far, the worst lineman we have.


True, but I'm really disappointed in Gross

#5 bigdog10

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:27 PM

Gross is not a leader at all. Furthest from it actually.

He is babied by the coaching staff and has been since his extension.

#6 KJ89

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:31 PM

Line.

WR's.

HC/OC.

Problems solved.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:31 PM

Heres more on that from pff....

Heres a brand new sortable stat they have "called time in the pocket"

Cam has the 3rd most time of any qb to throw at an average of 3.04 seconds per snap. Granted that stat could be skewed by his scrambling ability.

He's 11th in the league in most time to throw before being sacked at 3.52 seconds.

4th in the league before deciding to scramble at 5.46 seconds

Number 1 in percentage of plays with 2.6 or more seconds to throw (65%) and conversely has the smallest percent of snaps with less than 2.5 seconds to throw(35%)

He holds onto the ball the 3rd longest at 2.77 seconds per attempt

Then heres there under pressure stats

He's under pressure the 9th most at 33.3% and has the 8th most sacks taken while under pressure at 23.1%

Cam also has the worst completion percentage at 38.2% while under pressure.

All that being said I am not down and out on Cam and am fully confident he will rebound from this bullshit offense Chud is running.

#8 LA_Panther

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:32 PM

I want Cam to succeed as much as anyone, but I agree that the Cam homers needs to chill. When he messes up, he needs to be called out...that will benefit him actually

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:33 PM

If you actually think Cam HASN't been under pressure, then you're truly delusional. You ONLY post after a loss, you're a senior member here. Who's a COWARD to post with his real account.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:35 PM

To your point, his hit count could be skewered by scrambling too. He buys himself time. Doesn't necessarily count as having time. Not when your recievers are running stupid ass routes and don't get open.

Not justifying Newton by no means. But stats don't always dispell everything

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:37 PM

I want Cam to succeed as much as anyone, but I agree that the Cam homers needs to chill. When he messes up, he needs to be called out...that will benefit him actually


It will. He's starting to realize he's not actually Superman.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:37 PM

http://www.footballo...rs.com/stats/ol

Keep in mind this hasn't updated from this weekend's game yet (we'll drop at least 5 slots on the pass protection list).

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:41 PM

Keep in mind he's also using "hits" as the barometer for pressure, rather than actual pressures themselves.

Hits. On a 6'6 250 mobile QB. That's what he is basing his argument off of.

#14 TonyN

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:43 PM

Heres more on that from pff....

Heres a brand new sortable stat they have "called time in the pocket"

Cam has the 3rd most time of any qb to throw at an average of 3.04 seconds per snap. Granted that stat could be skewed by his scrambling ability.

He's 11th in the league in most time to throw before being sacked at 3.52 seconds.

4th in the league before deciding to scramble at 5.46 seconds

Number 1 in percentage of plays with 2.6 or more seconds to throw (65%) and conversely has the smallest percent of snaps with less than 2.5 seconds to throw(35%)

He holds onto the ball the 3rd longest at 2.77 seconds per attempt

Then heres there under pressure stats

He's under pressure the 9th most at 33.3% and has the 8th most sacks taken while under pressure at 23.1%

Cam also has the worst completion percentage at 38.2% while under pressure.

All that being said I am not down and out on Cam and am fully confident he will rebound from this bullshit offense Chud is running.


Love it man !!!

The blind and "in love" on this forum will continue to fall back on the "statistics don't matter because Cam is mobile" nonsense...

conveinently forgetting how many other "mobile quarterbacks" there are in the NFL these days...

How mobile is Newton really, when it is a straight pass play???

I saw a 23 year old QB yesterday who largely made no attempt to escape pressure at all...

Zero pocket awareness and a seeming inability to just throw the football away...

Gonna get sacked in your own end zone after clutching the ball for 6 to 7 seconds???

Oh, well...

#15 YoungPanthers89

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:45 PM

Who the hell makes a thread then signs in to their other account just to "like" the post?


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