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#46 hepcat



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Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:59 AM

Cam Newton has a W-L record of 8-17. Jamarcus Russell has a W-L record of 7-18.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:18 AM

don't give up on Cam. When he figures it out....... he'll be special.

It's just going to be a tough road until he does.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:44 AM


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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:51 AM

it's just one of those odd fugged up seasons, only way i can wrap my head around it. overall cam will be great, just not this year.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:58 AM

Here is a look at Alex Smith, #1 pick, similar to Cam situation, franchise a mess and coordinators...changed a couple times. Im not posting stats just win and losses. Look at the 49ers now, i hope it doesnt take us as long to put it together, but this is why you dont give up on your qb 25 games in.

4-12 2005
7-9 2006
5-11 2007
7-9 2008
8-8 2009
6-10 2010
13-3 2011
6-2-1 2012

look at the ups and down with mediocrity until they got the right coach to maximize Alex's strength. Everyone had called him a bust from day one. last year they were a special teams fumble away from the super bowl.

took them basically 6 years to get it rright and we expected it in 2. And lets be real we dont have a legendary franchise like San Fran, the pressure on them is even more then we have.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:01 PM

Cam should get that quote "tatted" on himself so it'll reminds him of these dumb@$$ Carolina Fans.

Big Cat would not approve.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:07 PM

Many of you forget that Cam is literally stuck in some crap offense that doesnt make sense fundamentally. Cam has barely any help. He'll be much better next year with a competant OC.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:27 PM

Big Cat would not approve.

I know. But maybe JR would let him bc some of our fans are such DA

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:43 PM

Cam Newton has a W-L record of 8-17. Jamarcus Russell has a W-L record of 7-18.


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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:01 PM

i guess i have missed it. haven't really been paying attention today. can't believe anyone worth taking seriously would be suggesting it.

Woah slow down there, I didn't say anything about them being taken seriously lol

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:05 PM

Woah slow down there, I didn't say anything about them being taken seriously lol


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Posted 13 November 2012 - 06:25 PM

Of course, it's not like Armanti Edwards has been on the team and has wasted a roster spot that other DESERVING players could use. Nah, trade Cam.

Let's stop lying to ourselves, Cam sucks. He's terrible, is it a coincidence his best year was when his offensive line was playing well? I doubt it, is it a coincidence his best season was when we didn't run option the majority of the time? I doubt it.

Conclusion: Cam sucks, trade Cam.

You really have to dig deep to play the Armanti card in this thread. Brilliant reasoning by the way.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:35 PM

Most young QBs lose, most throw picks..... Cam is a work in progress.....like most. Biggest issue is people want to compare him to what HOF QBs are doing now.....instead of what they did above.

Remember the now infamous Jim Mora meltdown?
"Playoffs! Don't talk to me about playoffs! Are you kidding me? Playoffs!"
Yeah, we all know that presser don't we.

That was in 2001 and the team had just dropped to, I believe, 4-6 at the time with a previious season of 10-6. Also including a season previously including a 3-13 record.

The quarterback at the time? Payton Manning.

Does Cam deserver some critisizm? Sure he does. Am I ready to give up on him? Nah, I think I will ride this Cam thing out for a while.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:54 PM

It's all one players fault. It's not like the organization and staff is in disarray currently. People just need someone to blame and look to Cam because he's put front and center like a thanksgiving turkey.

Simple mindedness and the huddle, can't have one without the other.

So True.

If all we had was a coaching staff that knew how to manage a game, and make players on the team we have now, accountable, we would win alot of the close games instead of losing them and on our way to the play-offs. How many times have we had the lead in the 4th quarter, only to end up losing? We could potentially be 7-2 instead on 2-7.

And of course, why are we putting so much cap money into the backfield and not in our secondary?? Freakin ridiculous..

Cam would look alot better if we had a top organization and coaching staff.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:03 PM

49ers gave Alex smith what? 7 or 8 years? I think we can give Cam at least half that. His potential is there. Alex never had much potential after his 2nd season.

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