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#71 Panthro

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:06 PM

If there was as strong a consensus as you are talking about (~80% for secession) they would almost assuredly be able to vote in whichever guy they wanted for President (unless other states had a strong consensus the other way). The conditions you are talking about would require some sort of hyper-polarization of the american electorate, and unless their is some big issue of contention that drives people apart exclusively due to their geography (like slavery) I dont see any way that happens

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:40 PM

Nance, maybe you can answer this. Is there a standard number of soldiers in a company?


It will vary wildly, and be in the 100-200 range most of the time... But there is no set number, no... =)

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:50 PM

i think it's less probable that an order would be given for such a thing... i find it more probable that it could happen on its own... hell, it happened at kent state... i don't think nixon gave that order...


edit: inimicus beat me to it.


Agreed, once you infuse tension and emotion into the situation, all bets are off and things like KSU happen...

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:37 PM

I saw the topic of using military force against fellow Americans discussed briefly in the other thread, and it seems not many are aware of Oath Keepers, or I may have not saw it in the few posts I looked over.

So, there's that if you weren't already aware of it. I support Oath Keepers, but I don't support idiots claiming they want to secede from the union... Regardless, this will not reach the level that force of any kind needs to be used... It will blow over without any major problems.

Like I said, it's really an empty gesture.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:39 PM

Nance, maybe you can answer this. Is there a standard number of soldiers in a company?

In 1970 three companies of the Ohio Nat Guard were deployed at Kent State. Of them 77 soldiers claimed to have fired their weapons on the protesters.


While not a perfectly analogous situation it might prove as a jumping off point for the question of how many servicemen would fire on unarmed US citizens.

Only ones I would worry about were the borderline retarded ones that went into service because they had no other options.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:47 PM

NVM

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:25 PM

So those loyal to the United States would have to leave. But when countered with why don't you leave if you hate it here so much I hear a lot of posturing and excuses.

Interesting.


Feels kind of funny to be on the other side of this, no?



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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:17 PM




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