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#81 Matthias

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:02 PM

if you think that's what he specializes in or is the only thing he specializes in then your missing the boat.

the thing that has killed chud hasn't been him running any particular offense. it's been in him limiting the offense and making it predictable. i mean one thing that is crucial to kelly's offense is the ability of the QB to make audibles on the line. is chud allowing that? kelly's whole offense depends on him and his QBs ability to take advantage of defenses and control what they do. they adapt what they do on the fly and abuse the other team and the pace of game gives the defense very little time to adjust or make necessary personnel changes.

chud goes in with one game plan and makes no adjustments and allows for no changes. he's smart, but very narrow minded in his playcalling.

chip kelly is in a whole other league than chud.


I just rather have a guy who specializes in a pro formation. If Chip Kelly is successful with the read option offense, which depends upon an athletic QB, he will be the first. I think that is a long shot. A team has never won a superbowl, with a QB who is pure athletic. Chip would probably come in and see Cam as mostly athletic with a big arm, just like I think most coaches would see him, and try to utilize them instead of developing Cam into a real QB.

I don't want to take no chances. Give me a coach who runs a pro system. I'm tired of all the experiments, it's time Cam learn to be a passer.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:07 PM

the spread is a pro system.

usage by many pro teams make is so, even if it doesn't have the name "pro-style".

and thinking that kelly would be exclusively a "read option" offense guy would be short sighted. that's what he runs there, but that's not all he's limited to.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:13 PM

the spread is a pro system.

usage by many pro teams make is so, even if it doesn't have the name "pro-style".

and thinking that kelly would be exclusively a "read option" offense guy would be short sighted. that's what he runs there, but that's not all he's limited to.


In the articles you posted, he said himself he would run a system that is fitted to his personnel. (Using John Fox and The Golden Calf of Bristol as an example) I'm 1,000,000% sure he would also try to use the read option, if he got his hands on Cam. Yet like I said, I don't want to take any chances, let Cam learn to be a passer, because that is where he is still struggling. No team right now is respecting his passing ability. Yeah, Chud has a lot to do with that, but it seems Chud doesn't trust Cam for some reason. Is that because Cam is struggling to read and throw in practice, or is Chud just crazy? It could be a little bit of both, but Cam struggling to throw with accuracy is what I'm concerned with. Give me a coach that demands that of Cam, and put all those read options in the garbage can.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:18 PM

the spread is a pro system.

usage by many pro teams make is so, even if it doesn't have the name "pro-style".

and thinking that kelly would be exclusively a "read option" offense guy would be short sighted. that's what he runs there, but that's not all he's limited to.



Still waiting..".Rayzor"...lol...

the more you type the more you out yourself...

You have absolutlely no idea what you are talking about and your posts prove it beyont the shadow of a doubt....

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:33 PM

You dont need to have played in the league to be a good coach. I think Kelly has enough desire, and ingenuity to take what we have and maximize the talent. He schemes well, and runs practice well. I think he'd be a great fit. So the fact that he runs the spread is not an argument.

What I do not like is the fact that he is not very media friendly, and I dont know how he would handle the responsibilities that a pro coach has to do as far as getting out there and being in the public for all the media time and events and such. I want him more than anything, but I live 60 miles from Eugene, and I've been a die hard duck fan, and season ticket holder for years.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:48 PM

HC experience > NFL experience

My biggest requirement for our next coach is that he was a successful Head Coach.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:43 AM

HC experience > NFL experience

My biggest requirement for our next coach is that he was a successful Head Coach.


Like Saban, Petrino, etc...

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:43 AM

Sure, in order to avoid situations like Rivera, Singletary, Phillips, etc. There's cases to be made for coordinators or college HCs. We tried the coordinator route. This time I'd try someone that doesn't have to learn to manage a team and the game.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:10 AM

Still waiting..".Rayzor"...lol...

the more you type the more you out yourself...

You have absolutlely no idea what you are talking about and your posts prove it beyont the shadow of a doubt....

The same could be said for you, posting your own stats while ignoring others and FACTS is denial.



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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:26 AM

You dont need to have played in the league to be a good coach. I think Kelly has enough desire, and ingenuity to take what we have and maximize the talent. He schemes well, and runs practice well. I think he'd be a great fit. So the fact that he runs the spread is not an argument.

What I do not like is the fact that he is not very media friendly, and I dont know how he would handle the responsibilities that a pro coach has to do as far as getting out there and being in the public for all the media time and events and such. I want him more than anything, but I live 60 miles from Eugene, and I've been a die hard duck fan, and season ticket holder for years.

this would absolutely be the least of my concerns.



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