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#51 rayzor

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:32 PM

I think that speaks volumes about the culture and enviroment in Carolina......one that Cam pretty much talked about from day 1. Losing and sucking is generally accepted within the organization. Maybe we simply don't have guys who will follow Cam. Hurney also spoke on the general topic.

Roster needs to be completed gutted. All old guys like Gross and Smith....need the boot. THOSE are our "leaders". Cam doesn't want to follow what they have done here and do. He shouldn't. The old guys era is about being inconsistant and having excuses every other year. I think that is the real issue in terms of leadership and Cam's role.

Cam has been bashed for his take on how things should go. Losing shouldn't be accepted. No need to learn to be a good loser. He pretty much is alone in that w/ the old guard and so called leaders.

too many excuses.

the old guard may need to go (tho it would add more holes to fill) but they aren't making him go to the bench and sit there and just accept it.

greg hardy is a good example of going against the existing culture and adding some fight to the sidelines. shockey was the same way last year. no one is forcing him to act like he does. that's all on him and it's as unacceptable as having a losing culture at all.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:34 PM

Ravens yeah.
Niners.....ehhhh

But your point remains.

Our defenseive leader is on IR
kalil can't lead from the couch either.

Why doesn't Gross do anything? Like admit he is playing like shot.
Or Smitty admit he has made some bone head plays.


Locker room needs a enema, badly.

#53 Frizzy350

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:39 PM

c or no c, the qb is the leader of the team.

period.



I think Joe Flacco and Ray Lewis believe otherwise...

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:40 PM

Did anyone question Cams leadership ability when he was at Auburn? So all of a sudden his leadership qualities disappeared?

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:42 PM

too many excuses.

the old guard may need to go (tho it would add more holes to fill) but they aren't making him go to the bench and sit there and just accept it.

greg hardy is a good example of going against the existing culture and adding some fight to the sidelines. shockey was the same way last year. no one is forcing him to act like he does. that's all on him and it's as unacceptable as having a losing culture at all.

old guard represents spots that need to be replaced regardless in the near future....

I find it funny the amount of people so focused on Cam sitting on the bench....his coaches are boobs and the all the guys with C's on their chest are from the old guard.

Cam has TONS of stuff to work on.....he is still, by far, the least of our current concerns. But lets keep talking about how cocerned we are about our leading rusher and the guy who is hit all game (who also had to play QB) sitting on the bench after each series.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:44 PM

I mean what is Cam suppose to say? Nobody believes in the coaching staff, the general manager is gone, it's another lame duck season the best he can do is tell his team don't worry these morons are gone

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:46 PM

RG3 was just elected a captain by washington. Someone should tell them young qbs are not expected to be leaders.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:48 PM

RG3 was just elected a captain by washington. Someone should tell them young qbs are not expected to be leaders.


What's their record again? Again this was move made by Mike Shanahan to spark his team don't be fooled

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:50 PM

What's their record again? Again this was move made by Mike Shanahan to spark his team don't be fooled


or rg3 could have earned it.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:53 PM

He was elected by his peers. What does record have to do with being a leader?


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