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#46 Chaos

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:54 PM

Draft Cam - before it was cool to say
Draft Luke bc we can't trust Beason and company to all be back
Don't sign all these RBs bc we won't give them touches to justify it
Chud is overrated and nothing like what is being pimped- last season when people wanted him as our HC

I typically get the, "CRA, you are an idiot" for such thoughts......

We should trade Smith or force him to retire after this year. Greatest Panther to date....but his time has run its course. He is one of MANY big moves we must start making. We need to move forward....I think as this season progresses that will become more clear. Bash away bc I know the Smitty man love is off the charts.....but his era is over and that era still holding on is one of several big problems IMO.


And what was your honest opinion of the Clausen draft pick?

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:55 PM

I have surgery tomorrow, crooked shnoz is making me snore and get sick too often, I cant elaborate too much at the moment but I will promise to read more of your posts if youre interested in going beyond listening to my perspective.

The concept is this: any man who gets drilled by a guy 3 times his size and then gets up and smashes his head a few more times with both fists and yells "WOooooOOOOO" is sending a messege to the opposing team. You cannot take that away or let him be traded.

I agree with that....I really do.

I just think he also sends a message with certain behaviors in 2010 and 2012 to his own teammates.....

I think that too often gets ignored bc of what you just mentioned. But pound for pound, Smitty is tough as nails and has many traits you wish more players had. I just think he brings more to the table than that.......and some of it is negative. The negative gets too often overlooked. He is a better fit for certain teams that are in certain windows...than others.

Good luck with the surgery.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:00 PM

I agree with that....I really do.

I just think he also sends a message with certain behaviors in 2010 and 2012 to his own teammates.....

I think that too often gets ignored bc of what you just mentioned. But pound for pound, Smitty is tough as nails and has many traits you wish more players had. I just think he brings more to the table than that.......and some of it is negative. The negative gets too often overlooked. He is a better fit for certain teams that are in certain windows...than others.

Good luck with the surgery.


Thank you

and I understand that how us two weigh those things makes the difference in our opinions. This team is dire need of leaders now. They need conifidence badly and not the kind that comes through soft spoken words of encouragement. Whatever the cost with 89, I gladly pay it.

My favorite scene in the Batman begins is a scene where Rhazz Alghul is giving Batman his final test. "YOU HAVE TO BECOME AN IDEA". . you have to become what they fear most. Thats 89

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:02 PM

And what was your honest opinion of the Clausen draft pick?


hated it.....well documented. Liked AE though....

Never understood the hype, played exactly the same way at ND and never beat anyone.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:08 PM

Draft Cam - before it was cool to say
Draft Luke bc we can't trust Beason and company to all be back
Don't sign all these RBs bc we won't give them touches to justify it
Chud is overrated and nothing like what is being pimped- last season when people wanted him as our HC


I typically get the, "CRA, you are an idiot" for such thoughts......

We should trade Smith or force him to retire after this year. Greatest Panther to date....but his time has run its course. He is one of MANY big moves we must start making. We need to move forward....I think as this season progresses that will become more clear. Bash away bc I know the Smitty man love is off the charts.....but his era is over and that era still holding on is one of several big problems IMO.



Link to your genius prognostications?

Force Smitty to retire, yes I'm certain that is the right course.

#51 Icege

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:11 PM

I think if we started a thread about the overwhelming amount of unpopular things that you have also been wrong about that they would far out number the merit of your hits :P

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:18 PM

I think if we started a thread about the overwhelming amount of unpopular things that you have also been wrong about that they would far out number the merit of your hits :P


Outside of Jarrett, Moore, and now Rivera, I have been lucky on the things I have gone on and on about. I am sure I am due to have things blow up on me soon though. Moore probably is a push though.....I still think he was sabotaged to a degree in 2010.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:21 PM

If we cut Smith and bring in a legit #1 we are back having the issue of one WR plus some scrubs. Steve Smith>Jbreeze and any #2 who is not a Packers, Giant, Steeler, or Falcon

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:21 PM

Link to your genius prognostications?

Force Smitty to retire, yes I'm certain that is the right course.


Well, if you listen to 89...retirement could easily be close. Blowing it all up and bringing in certain people could encourage that.

Not sure what you want links for.....

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:27 PM

Draft Cam - before it was cool to say
Draft Luke bc we can't trust Beason and company to all be back
Don't sign all these RBs bc we won't give them touches to justify it
Chud is overrated and nothing like what is being pimped- last season when people wanted him as our HC

I typically get the, "CRA, you are an idiot" for such thoughts......

We should trade Smith or force him to retire after this year. Greatest Panther to date....but his time has run its course. He is one of MANY big moves we must start making. We need to move forward....I think as this season progresses that will become more clear. Bash away bc I know the Smitty man love is off the charts.....but his era is over and that era still holding on is one of several big problems IMO.


I don't think this is so unpopular as you may think, but I think that whoever shares your opinion is off their rocker. Smith could easily be a top 10, and maybe even a top five receiver in the league if he played with a QB that could actually hit him in stride. Hell, if he had had a consistently accurate QB throughout his career, he would easily be top 10, and possibly top 5 of all time. Delhomme didn't do it, he did, however, give Smith the opportunity to show his jumping ability and timing skills. Cam can hardly hit Smith in his hands, much less in stride. Of all the things that I am critical of Cam for, it's missing a wide open Steve Smith. So many missed opportunities this season. I believe that people would rather dump on Smith than look at the bigger problem in regards to his lack of continued potential: Cam Newton

This is not to say that Cam can't or won't get better, but right now you can't blame Smith for Cam's shortcoming.

I think forcing him to be our #2 would be more ideal IMO

more of a matter if smitty can handle it


Smitty has already stated that he is ready to take a step back. The problem for what should be the waning years of Smith's ability is that the FO has done a poo-ass job of bringing in Smith's future replacement.

Or have him occupy the slot when we run 3WR sets.


Smith would love to do this, but the FO needs to poo or get off the pot, and Cam needs to tighten up his throws!

It isn't a talent issue.....Smith has the talent to play for several more years in an altered role.


Damn! You seem to get it. This is my opinion, but it seems that it is the antithesis of the original post.

He could be the best slot receiver in the game.

Problem.is we don't have the talent at the position that would allow him to slide into the slot.

Get that talent, and steve smith would continue being one of the most feared receivers in the game.


Hell, yeah! I think Cruz is a manbeast, but Smitty still has the speed and skill set to give Victor a run for the money.

I think Smith said like 2 years ago he don't mind playing backseat

Hurney failure was not getting a receiver in here all those years


Right. Ditto! Like I said earlier. Can't only blame Hurney though. Richardson is a football man. He should have demanded that they get a receiver that could fill that role a long time ago. We were too busy trying strike gold again with a lucky pick. I swear that the entire FO had their hands up their asses they were sitting on them so hard.

We threw out the last original Panther John Kasay and look what we got for it, that bastard Olindo Mare.

Steve is still productive, let him retire when he is ready to do so.


I agree. We'll set ourselves back at least another year by trading Smitty, really.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:12 AM

- Didn't like the Pickles pick, made a detailed post as to why and recieved neg rep for it.

- Wanted us to draft Cam or AJ Green. Said Cam would take several seasons to become a good QB. Now I'll make a bonus prediction, I expect Cam to make a major leap in play in his 4th season with us, but not before.

- Predicted Gabbert would be a bust.

- Predicted that we would draft Jonathan Stewart before it was popular.

- I bet on the SB last season and won.

But at the same time I've been wrong with some predictions as well. I thought we were drafting Couples, and I wasn't interested in Luke. My predictions are hit and miss like anyone else.

Smith isn't going anywhere imo unless there is a WR in the draft who can replace him. Otherwise cutting him would only do further harm to our already weak passing game, and also further upset an already crushed fanbase.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:58 AM

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:26 AM

take steve smith off this team and we are garbage. you wanna see lafell facing number one cornerbacks and keolohaharla fugin pilares facing number twos?

take steve smith off this team and add another wide receiver and we are marginally better if we hit the jackpot.

keep steve smith on this team and add top-flight receiver in FA and we are instantly formidable at the position.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:31 AM

My question with Smith is this...when we inevitably draft or sign our future #1, how does he behave? Does he take a backseat and adapt comfortably to a support role, or does he act up? I'm not sure anyone knows the answer to that, but Steve sure better be thinking about it.

Oh, and as to the post claiming that a big problem with Smith is getting hit in stride, I saw that happen many times last year. Not so much this year. Why it's changed is a good question for the new staff when they arrive.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:01 AM

Smitty himself has said we need more talent at WR.It would make him better and the other wr.My problem is at the number 2 wr who seems to disappear for quarters at a time.Not like the Moose days.y

You have to realize Smitty is getting other teams best cb and double teams.It should be the number 2 making more plays.I disagree with you on Smitty


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