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The Southern Strategy - The Lee Atwater Interview


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#16 pstall

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:25 PM

Jase you are all over it. I have been watching msnbc all week and they have made a concerted effort to portray this. Sure they get to the middle east and fiscal cliff but the lead stories are still election focused and pouring more dirt on mitts coffin.



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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:30 PM

Ben who?

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:31 PM

so we've got a former RNC chairman and the guy who more or less won the 1988 election for bush talking about how his party used and continued to use dogwhistles to lure racists to the republican party.

but it's really all about the liberal media

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:34 PM

It is and here's why. Part of what I wanted to see aybody tackl on the Ron Paul thread. The dems/media don't want the rep party to change or adapt or learn from their mistakes. It takes away so much of their angst and reason for living if the reps get their act together.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:35 PM

Maybe they don't want them to because it's a big reason the Republicans lost the 2012 election?

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:38 PM

So republicans are stupid, and that's just the way you want to keep them?



Who says political discourse is fractured.? Seems fine to me.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:41 PM

I would personally love the Republicans to abandon their policy.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:46 PM

oh i don't doubt the validity of the southern strategy and its roots in the republican party.

I just think the frequency and vigor that it's mentioned in paralleling today's political climate seems like a pretty well-coordinated effort to portray the presidents detractors as a large group of racists stuck in the 1950s.

Rings of a Karl Rove-style hit parade.


The Southern Strategy saved the Republican party by broadening it's otherwise limited shrinking base. The reason it is a topic again is because the reelection of a mixed race President has provided a motivating factor and the advent of social media has provided a public forum for many of the less savory elements of the GOP.

As a witness to the original migration of die hard southern Dem's to the GOP, I have no illusions as to their primary motivation for switching parties, they made it abundantly clear at the time. There is no sense in pretending otherwise, a key component of the southern strategy was to appeal to racist attitudes. To this day, racist voters know which party is most sympathetic to their views and vote accordingly.

Until the GOP publicly and continuously discourages racist attitudes (President Obama is foreign born Kenyan socialist Muslim gay man who murdered his lover and secretly hates America) instead of encouraging such individuals to run for President, they will have a very difficult time attracting minorities in large numbers to their cause.

And yes, it is worthy of discussion when tens of thousand of Americans are petitioning to secede from what they had previously considered "the greatest country the world has ever known" and were ready to fight anyone that said otherwise. These are largely the same people that reelected the internationally recognized economic and war mongering failure GWB/Dick Cheney and were proud to do it. Now all of the sudden, after decades of GOP failed economic policy they are worried about deficits and freedom? Yeah, right, race and the Southern Strategy have nothing to do with it.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:21 PM

It is and here's why. Part of what I wanted to see anybody tackle on the Ron Paul thread. The dems/media don't want the rep party to change or adapt or learn from their mistakes. It takes away so much of their angst and reason for living if the reps get their act together.


As a former registered Republican, I can say all Americans would benefit from a real alternative to the Democratic Party. Sadly, the GOP still thinks it needs the religious nuts and racists to win or they would have publicly repudiated them by now. The downside of the Southern Strategy is growing more apparent by the minute and soon the GOP will need to change or die as a political force.

Then again, others may make that decision for them. If a bipartisan majority in the House allows the Bush tax cuts to expire, it would not surprise me to see the Tea Party/Grover Norquist and the Religious Right/Ralph Reed form a third party. It would free up the GOP to revert to it's natural position on the political spectrum and regain some credibility, while attracting new minority membership.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:30 PM

Yeah I secretly want to be treated as a second class American because I would have no purpose in life otherwise

where does pstall get this sh*t?

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:34 PM

goofball. i dont want ANYBODY to be a 2nd class citizen. im mocking this outrage, albeit really late since Atwater has been dead a long time.

those rep's that are cavemen are slowly going away. but many of those not like yourself aren't hatching some super villian plan or anything.

relax

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:38 PM

goofball. i dont want ANYBODY to be a 2nd class citizen. im mocking this outrage, albeit really late since Atwater has been dead a long time.

those rep's that are cavemen are slowly going away.


You mean like Rick Santorum? The guy that won primaries throughout the Southeast?

#28 SZ James (banned)

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:41 PM

^Fox News, still the number one network

Still uses code language as if that dude never died. Just because you tune it out doesn't mean it doesn't exist in the modern GOP

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:47 PM

Rick Santorum? lol lol lol

The guy is a tool.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:50 PM

goofball. i dont want ANYBODY to be a 2nd class citizen. im mocking this outrage, albeit really late since Atwater has been dead a long time.

those rep's that are cavemen are slowly going away. but many of those not like yourself aren't hatching some super villian plan or anything.

relax


in fairness, between norquist and rove you're one cape shy of a supervillain.


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