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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:00 PM

scared what the answers would be if this thread was changed from suiciders to masturbators!

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:55 PM

I'm typically one of those folks that's particularly hard on people who take their lives. I see it as the last and maybe greatest attention whoring act of a coward.

But that's when it's an act of emotion.

But when the decision is made by God/The Universe/Fate or whatever you believe in, we'll that's a different story. I don't think that there is anything wrong with simply hastening that which is imminate. There is no nobility in enduring a long and difficult passing.

As someone who believes in God I can't reconcile the idea of any "Go to Jail, Go directly to Jail. Do not pass Go" with the idea of a just and loving deity.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:06 PM

Also, the asshole in me just has to ask...

If someone commits suicide, and there is an omnipotent god, then said god willed suicide to happen... no?

Religious folk will be the first to tell you that everything happens for a reason, until something like suicide happens, and then they'll immediately pass judgement...

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:19 AM

Whatever gets you through the night is alright, ultimately everyone must decide for themselves.

The way I look at it is, there is no scientific evidence of a cognizant existence prior to conception (a truly preconceived notion) or postmortem.

It is estimated there have been approximately 100 billion modern humans born, all but 7 billion are now dead. Haven't run into one wayward soul yet.

I wouldn't be the least bit upset if I were wrong, but wishing it was true is simply not enough for me,

However, if I am right, I'll be as equally preoccupied with this issue after death, as I was before I was born.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:21 AM

Whatever gets you through the night is alright, ultimately everyone must decide for themselves.

The way I look at it is, there is no scientific evidence of a cognizant existence prior to conception (a truly preconceived notion) or postmortem.

It is estimated there have been approximately 100 billion modern humans born, all but 7 billion are now dead. Haven't run into one wayward soul yet.

I wouldn't be the least bit upset if I were wrong, but wishing it was true is simply not enough for me,

However, if I am right, I'll be as equally preoccupied with this issue after death, as I was before I was born.


How exactly could science prove or disprove such and existence?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:13 PM

How exactly could science prove or disprove such and existence?


Advocates of fanciful ideas ultimately resort to "It can not be proved or disproved."

By the standard of "you can't prove it doesn't exist", we would need to include things such as vampires, werewolves, leprechauns, trolls, monsters under the bed, and any other fanciful idea that pops into anyone's head.

Ask anyone that believes in something fanciful and it ultimately comes down to "faith".

There is a total lack of verifiable evidence for an after life, just like for monsters under the bed.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:43 PM

also the female orgasm is a myth

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:43 PM

You are the one who brought up science and how it had no evidence. I am just asking how science tests or gets results or proves or disproves "existence". Would that by definition be outside of the scientific realm? Oooh gasp!

It was a question. You can frame it with monsters under the bed, but when I cut the light on, they are not there. Doubt it is the same. If you don't have an answer, just move on and try not to demean everyone on your way out.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:44 PM

You are the one who brought up science and how it had no evidence. I am just asking how science tests or gets results or proves or disproves "existence". Would that by definition be outside of the scientific realm? Oooh gasp!

It was a question. You can frame it with monsters under the bed, but when I cut the light on, they are not there. Doubt it is the same. If you don't have an answer, just move on and try not to demean everyone on your way out.


i've never cut the light on and found god under my bed.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:47 PM

i've never cut the light on and found god under my bed.


You had better hope you don't


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