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#46 Urrymonster

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:03 AM

I'm yet to see a QB really make improvements into their accuracy. There will be offensive schemes that will make completing passes easier, but consistent accuracy is very hard to improve. In such a dynamic sport it's very difficult to coach in fundamentals at this point in his career so I wouldn't expect newtons accuracy to improve by leaps and bounds over his career.

One thing I liked today was the ball was coming out quicker and he was much faster at deciding to tuck the ball and run. This helped our Oline out massively. Still same very high risk throws, but I guess we will have to live with them with the cam crud combination at the mo. definite improvement.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:28 AM

I was just thinking that I wish Jake and Fox were here right now. Cam has yet to lead us to a comeback drive in the 4th, Cam has yet to cuss out an Olineman when they all don't block for him. I watch other games and say "Cam can't make that throw". Cam and Mark Sanchez are on the same level. I really hate this offense and don't beleive in its players, who dont believe in their QB....and they shouldn't

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#48 Jackofalltrades

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:20 AM

He won't get better Footwork in a read option, shotgun 80%, and bad Oline offense. You get better footwork from being under center.


I'm talking about the most basic of fundamentals, where he had time, clean pocket and just made a bad throw due to poor mechanics. Of course the other stuff is a factor, but I'm talking about just Cam and what he can control.

#49 GotSwag?

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:57 AM

Nothing wrong with Cam..at all. He will make mistakes, but I love the guy. Hes just going to get better and better. Heck, his attitude is even getting better after each one of these close losses. You can tell it still bugs the crap out of him, but hes maturing.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:02 AM

His accuracy/mechanics need to improve as well as his progression in plays is too slow. Certainly things that he can improve.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:13 AM

I was just thinking that I wish Jake and Fox were here right now. Cam has yet to lead us to a comeback drive in the 4th, Cam has yet to cuss out an Olineman when they all don't block for him. I watch other games and say "Cam can't make that throw". Cam and Mark Sanchez are on the same level. I really hate this offense and don't beleive in its players, who dont believe in their QB....and they shouldn't


jake and fox are gone and they're never, ever coming back.

you seem like a new fan because i'm not getting the notion that you remember the number of times this board wanted those two hanged at dawn.

#52 MadHatter

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:21 AM

Cam's accuracy will improve dramatically when we get rid of the gimmicks and get him back to running pro sets.


So I think Cam will improve....absolutely.

But to say that his accuracy will improve jsut because of the playcalling, that is naive.

He had open WR's and could not him them. That is not because of the play that was called, but because of his ability to be accurate.

I hope and pray that he is the answer as our franchise QB. I do believe that new coaching should help him develop. But, to think that it is ALL coaching of others fault is laughable.

#53 MadHatter

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:21 AM

So I think Cam will improve....absolutely.

But to say that his accuracy will improve just because of the playcalling, that is naive.

He had open WR's and could not him them. That is not because of the play that was called, but because of his ability to be accurate.

I hope and pray that he is the answer as our franchise QB. I do believe that new coaching should help him develop. But, to think that it is ALL coaching of others fault is laughable.



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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:25 AM

this board wanted those two hanged at dawn.


Still do.

#55 jarhead

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:31 AM

So I think Cam will improve....absolutely.

But to say that his accuracy will improve jsut because of the playcalling, that is naive.

He had open WR's and could not him them. That is not because of the play that was called, but because of his ability to be accurate.

I hope and pray that he is the answer as our franchise QB. I do believe that new coaching should help him develop. But, to think that it is ALL coaching of others fault is laughable.


I agree......some is on the coaching and some is on Cam.His progression must improve as well.I think we miss Shockey as that big target and check down

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:29 AM

jake and fox are gone and they're never, ever coming back.

you seem like a new fan because i'm not getting the notion that you remember the number of times this board wanted those two hanged at dawn.

Oh no I wanted them gone too. No poo they are not coming back. I am just not into following the huddle pack mentality. 2-14 wouldn't have happened with Jake and we would def have a better record with Fox and Jake.......yada yada yada can't happen 1 million turnovers durrr durrrr.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:12 PM

His accuracy will be better when we get a new OC and HC. That won't hand cuff him in a college offense. He threw some zingers today when given time. The slant to Smitty between 3 defenders was a beauty.


What does the Head Coach and OC have to do with Mechanics? I would think they are both working on schemes, and overall coaching for the team and the offense.... I would think the QB Coach is the one responsible day to day with working on the QB's Mechanics and techniques. What would Make Rivera more qualified than the QB Coach to teach and nit pick mechanics...

#58 TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:30 PM

I dont know, as concerned as I am with his accuracy, when the season was starting some guys doing our games on telecasts bragged of Cam's "west coast offense completion percentage". He was around 64% the first several games to start the season and then some games against good defenses took its toll on Cam's percentage.

I think he can be a 60% passer, I really do. And I do think the read option hurts his accuracy, this "spread" type of offense never allows a QB to get in a rhythm. It doesn't. See Braxton Miller at Ohio State. Junk completion percentage every week. The read option passes take an extra second even out of the shotgun, allowing an attacking defense to get an extra second of rush if they're keying on the QB regardless. I notice it all the time, then he has to rush his delivery bc the lineman is on him. Anyone who says that a read option doesn't hurt the QB's rhythm doesn't watch closely enough. Its costing him valuable fractions of seconds to do that fake handoff bullshit.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 12:31 AM

Maybe our next coaching regime will hire Chris Weinke as the QB Coach...

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 06:43 AM

Quickest way to fix Cams accuracy is getting him better targets. His #1 will be 34 next year and has 1 TD this year. His other receivers also struggle to get open. Once we get Cam more reliable targets his pct will go back up to 60%


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