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[quote name='PantherBrew' timestamp='1353341291' post='2007928']
Thoughts on Tom Clements?
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Tom Clements looks awesome. He'd probably be my first pick out of anyone that hasn't been a head coach before. But after going through what we've gone through with Rivera, I'd prefer to see someone who's been a head coach at some level.

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But, out of everyone, David Shaw is honestly my #1 favorite right now.

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HC - Mike McCoy
OC - Norv Turner
DC - Rex Ryan

I'm not sure what to make of Mike McCoy but all the NFL insiders have been pumping him up for bigger and better jobs since he was the QB coach here in Carolina.

Norv Turner was a bad head coach but is a great offensive mind.

Yes, Rex Ryan has always ran a 3-4 defense. But Rivera had always ran a 4-3 before going to San Deigo where he adapted his philosophy to match the 3-4 personnel that was already in place. Who's to say Rex can't do the same?

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Bill Cowher

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[quote name='Nicbsbll2' timestamp='1353367727' post='2008658']
HC - Mike McCoy
OC - Norv Turner
DC - Rex Ryan

I'm not sure what to make of Mike McCoy but all the NFL insiders have been pumping him up for bigger and better jobs since he was the QB coach here in Carolina.

Norv Turner was a bad head coach but is a great offensive mind.

Yes, Rex Ryan has always ran a 3-4 defense. But Rivera had always ran a 4-3 before going to San Deigo where he adapted his philosophy to match the 3-4 personnel that was already in place. Who's to say Rex can't do the same?
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3-4 guys are not gonna want to play a 4-3. the 3-4 is more versatile and you are able to disguise coverages and bring heat better.

Ryan would switch us atleast by season 2 if not season 1 with a few FA signings and some draft picks.

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[quote name='koolkatluke' timestamp='1353291026' post='2007060']
Mike Mocoy Broncos OC

Bruce Arians Colts OC

Kevin Gilbright Giants OC
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Add Kyle Shanahan from DC and maybe Perry Fewel from the Giants too and this is what I'd like.

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[quote name='Ivan The Awesome' timestamp='1353371378' post='2008748']


Add Kyle Shanahan from DC and maybe [b]Perry Fewel[/b] from the Giants too and this is what I'd like.
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No to Perry Fewel. He's interviewed for as many HC positions as Ron Rivera. I do not want to go that road again.

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A lot of names. Some thoughts.

Based on Jerry's executive hiring decisions, why should we have any faith in anyone he directly hires? And if we do get a good coach, why should we believe that Jerry will treat that person well? Ditto with a general manager.

I have ZERO faith in Jerry's ability to make the two most important decisions: the hiring of a head coach and the hiring of a general manager.

The best coaches gravitate toward the best owners and organizations. They pick and choose the destination that will work for them; it's just like any other business: the top candidates are not interested in going to a bad company.

Word gets around among coaches about the 'corporate culture' and I believe that Jerry's reputation among coaches is poor. PLUS...Jerry has a reputation for being cheap when it comes to coaches. Word also gets around among the agents representing coaches.

Organizations with major, major problems call in a consultant. It would shock me if Jerry actually does what Ernie tells him.

So we can speculate about coaches but with the organization in disarray and the presence of several genuine passengers on the roster PLUS salary cap problems, the top candidates will steer well clear of Charlotte. Sad but true but I hope I'm proven wrong.

A new coach will arrive. He will say all the right things. Jerry will send PSL owners a letter at the end of the season telling us he's proud of us and that things will be better but there's no reason for optimism while Jerry is the owner.

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[quote name='Upper Deck West End Zone' timestamp='1353378399' post='2009007']
A lot of names. Some thoughts.

Based on Jerry's executive hiring decisions, why should we have any faith in anyone he directly hires? And if we do get a good coach, why should we believe that Jerry will treat that person well? Ditto with a general manager.

I have ZERO faith in Jerry's ability to make the two most important decisions: the hiring of a head coach and the hiring of a general manager.

The best coaches gravitate toward the best owners and organizations. They pick and choose the destination that will work for them; it's just like any other business: the top candidates are not interested in going to a bad company.

Word gets around among coaches about the 'corporate culture' and I believe that Jerry's reputation among coaches is poor. PLUS...Jerry has a reputation for being cheap when it comes to coaches. Word also gets around among the agents representing coaches.

Organizations with major, major problems call in a consultant. It would shock me if Jerry actually does what Ernie tells him.

So we can speculate about coaches but with the organization in disarray and the presence of several genuine passengers on the roster PLUS salary cap problems, the top candidates will steer well clear of Charlotte. Sad but true but I hope I'm proven wrong.

A new coach will arrive. He will say all the right things. Jerry will send PSL owners a letter at the end of the season telling us he's proud of us and that things will be better but there's no reason for optimism while Jerry is the owner.
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[quote name='Nicbsbll2' timestamp='1353377248' post='2008935']


No to Perry Fewel. He's interviewed for as many HC positions as Ron Rivera. I do not want to go that road again.
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Rooney plays a large part in that.

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[quote name='Ruff' timestamp='1353366450' post='2008630']

Jason La Canfora disagrees with you, so, thanks for knowing more than a guy that covers football for a living!

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I want a coach that will run a PRO offense with Cam Newton. Period. If you want to add some wriggles fine. But for the love of God, he can run a Pro offense.

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I actually like the Brett Bilema idea someone threw out in another thread. He's a coach who has made living winning 10+ games a year and isn't hauling in the top 5 class every year just banking on talent. Solid coach that I think could do the job here.

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[quote name='Upper Deck West End Zone' timestamp='1353378399' post='2009007']
A lot of names. Some thoughts.

Based on Jerry's executive hiring decisions, why should we have any faith in anyone he directly hires? And if we do get a good coach, why should we believe that Jerry will treat that person well? Ditto with a general manager.

I have ZERO faith in Jerry's ability to make the two most important decisions: the hiring of a head coach and the hiring of a general manager.

The best coaches gravitate toward the best owners and organizations. They pick and choose the destination that will work for them; it's just like any other business: the top candidates are not interested in going to a bad company.

Word gets around among coaches about the 'corporate culture' and I believe that Jerry's reputation among coaches is poor. PLUS...Jerry has a reputation for being cheap when it comes to coaches. Word also gets around among the agents representing coaches.

Organizations with major, major problems call in a consultant. It would shock me if Jerry actually does what Ernie tells him.

So we can speculate about coaches but with the organization in disarray and the presence of several genuine passengers on the roster PLUS salary cap problems, the top candidates will steer well clear of Charlotte. Sad but true but I hope I'm proven wrong.

A new coach will arrive. He will say all the right things. Jerry will send PSL owners a letter at the end of the season telling us he's proud of us and that things will be better but there's no reason for optimism while Jerry is the owner.
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Go back to your panthers bar in NYC

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[quote name='Kurb' timestamp='1353293796' post='2007191']
Who do I want ?

Does it really fuging matter right now ?


We are fuged in the cap.
Our OC is trying to get out QB murdered.
Our Head coach doesn't know what day it is.
Our DC is a fuging Ginger .
Our previous GM resigned a bunch of players comfortable with losing.
Our locker room culture is that of the bad news bears.
Our owner is so out of touch he thinks its great he has minorities playing no doubt.
and our fan base is so fuging dipshitted that we are talking about McCoy, Scott Leinahand, and Gene ABOUTTOBEfugINGFIREDFROMAUBURN Chizic as Head Coaching prospects.

So no, I don't think I will join in this hope and dreams and forum circle jerk of who will come win us a SuperBowl in their first season.
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[quote name='Kurb' timestamp='1353294078' post='2007199']
You guys whine and fuging cry when I don't insta ban the smartasses on this board when they tell you how fuging stupid you sounding.
Then people make posts like I see after a loss.
The only hope for many of you is that someone will use the English language to bash you in the fuging skull in literary fashion until you either stop posting and hurting my eyes OR educate yourselves so you don't sound like a fuging 13 year oldtrying to talk to grown ups about your adult experiences.
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Dont be afraid, if you want Rivera to stay just tell us.

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Or tell us dipshitted fan base who is going to save the Panthers.


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[quote name='PantherBrew' timestamp='1353341291' post='2007928']
Thoughts on Tom Clements?
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Limited experience as an OC. Has been a QB coach pretty much his entire career. I know Reid went from QB Coach to head coach, but I'm not a big fan of 'skipping a grade'. And I have to imagine it'd be an even harder sell to Richardson.

I wouldn't scream, but not my first choice.

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[quote name='Mr. Scot' timestamp='1353394376' post='2009307']


Limited experience as an OC. Has been a QB coach pretty much his entire career. I know Reid went from QB Coach to head coach, but I'm not a big fan of 'skipping a grade'. And I have to imagine it'd be an even harder sell to Richardson.

I wouldn't scream, but not my first choice.
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I get what your saying but he was a head coach finalist for penn state, just so you know

Edit: also got interest from bucs and dolphins last year as well

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[quote name='Nicbsbll2' timestamp='1353377248' post='2008935']

No to Perry Fewel. He's interviewed for as many HC positions as Ron Rivera. I do not want to go that road again.
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Yeah, and he's in a WINNING organization. Couldn't say that for Rivera could you? Besides the Accorsi connection is there.

Also why are people getting their jimmies rustled over McCoy? He did cater to Tebow/Orton and now is basically letting Manning do his thing. But to take Tebow and Orton and still make the playoffs and beat the squeelers isn't good enough for you? really the fug do you want then?

Personally I want an OC or an offensive minded Coach. I'm tired of the DC trend. Unless it's from a winning organization or we hit the jackpot like Denver did with a Fox like type HC that was ousted by the Organization. Rex Ryan may come to mind, if he get fired that is.

If Tony Dungy would be available, I'd say go after that man. He knows how to build teams.


I'd like to know who the Gm is already, that way we could probably be more specific on our speculation.

Also,. LMFAO at TGOATC for suggestin chizik...lol...just fuging lol.

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[quote name='Gabeking' timestamp='1353384137' post='2009209']
Go back to your panthers bar in NYC
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Sorry, pal, I'm back.

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[quote name='Gabeking' timestamp='1353394498' post='2009309']


I get what your saying but he was a head coach finalist for penn state, just so you know

Edit: also got interest from bucs and dolphins last year as well
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And it won't surprise me if he gets interest again, including from us.

I would say I'm always a little iffy on guys whose names are attached to star players. There's always the question of how much is them and how much is the player (Joe Philbin, for example).

Granted, that's not always fair, but it's a valid concern.

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Greg Roman

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[quote name='Mr. Scot' timestamp='1353421383' post='2009470']


And it won't surprise me if he gets interest again, including from us.

I would say I'm always a little iffy on guys whose names are attached to star players. There's always the question of how much is them and how much is the player (Joe Philbin, for example).

Granted, that's not always fair, but it's a valid concern.
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That's true, and I'm not saying Clements is a bonafide #1 option either, But he developed Rodgers even before he was technically a 'star' QB and he developed Elvis Grbac, Tommy Maddox and Kordell Stewart into probowlers the one year he coached each one of them, as well that's all I'm saying.

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[quote name='Gabeking' timestamp='1353423540' post='2009502']
That's true, and I'm not saying Clements is a bonafide #1 option either, But he developed Rodgers even before he was technically a 'star' QB and he developed Elvis Grbac, Tommy Maddox and Kordell Stewart into probowlers the one year he coached each one of them, as well that's all I'm saying.
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All valid.

There's something to be said for having a guy who knows the QB spot well in charge of the whole thing.

Not sure it happens here, but I'm hoping Accorsi convinces Richardon to be a little less 'set in his ways' on certain fronts (like what kind of coach he hires).

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[quote name='Upper Deck West End Zone' timestamp='1353378399' post='2009007']
A lot of names. Some thoughts.

Based on Jerry's executive hiring decisions, why should we have any faith in anyone he directly hires? And if we do get a good coach, why should we believe that Jerry will treat that person well? Ditto with a general manager.

I have ZERO faith in Jerry's ability to make the two most important decisions: the hiring of a head coach and the hiring of a general manager.

The best coaches gravitate toward the best owners and organizations. They pick and choose the destination that will work for them; it's just like any other business: the top candidates are not interested in going to a bad company.

Word gets around among coaches about the 'corporate culture' and I believe that Jerry's reputation among coaches is poor. PLUS...Jerry has a reputation for being cheap when it comes to coaches. Word also gets around among the agents representing coaches.

Organizations with major, major problems call in a consultant. It would shock me if Jerry actually does what Ernie tells him.

So we can speculate about coaches but with the organization in disarray and the presence of several genuine passengers on the roster PLUS salary cap problems, the top candidates will steer well clear of Charlotte. Sad but true but I hope I'm proven wrong.

A new coach will arrive. He will say all the right things. Jerry will send PSL owners a letter at the end of the season telling us he's proud of us and that things will be better but there's no reason for optimism while Jerry is the owner.
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I hate it for us, but totally agree. I think Jerry's rep cost us a great shot at luck/harbaugh and will make any good coach think long and hard. Maybe just maybe we get lucky with a bargain bin coach but the odds are against us

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Richardson's reputation on an internet forum/sports radio and Richardson's reputation in the league are two very different things.
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I want Tom Clements, OC for the Packers. Panthers need to hire a QB guru to coach Cam Newton. That's the biggest need. If Cam dominates, everything else will fall in line.

And not only someone who knows X's and O's, but someone who can corral Cam's ego, tell him to shut the hell up, hit the gym/playbooks and win some games. I don't know much about Clements personality in that regard.

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