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NH House votes down gay marriage bill because of religious liberty protection clause

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I think I make a statement that was intended to root out all dissenters of the provision before you started your strawman argument. I've responded.

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there are a lot of churches who want to be able to marry teh gheys but cannot legally. if the state is going to be involved in marriage then it has to be inclusive. the state should have nothing to do with this, it should be up to the churches especially since the biggest talking point against gay marriage uses the fact that marriage and civil union are effectively the same thing.

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OK, so you don't want to answer.

My stance is any religious institution should be able to deny marriage to anyone that their particular religion prohibits marrying. But, in doing so, churches should lose their tax exempt status because clearly they are not interested in serving all of the community.

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churches should lose their tax exempt status period, but that's an entirely different argument.

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I agree, but there is no chance of that happening so whats the use in talking about it. ;)

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My stance is any religious institution should be able to deny marriage to anyone that their particular religion prohibits marrying. But, in doing so, churches should lose their tax exempt status because clearly they are not interested in serving all of the community.

I agree with you that churches should be able to marry or not marry anyone that their religion allows them to, but what has that got to do with the tax exempt status. Isn't that simply a way to force churches to do what the gov't wants them to?

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I agree with you that churches should be able to marry or not marry anyone that their religion allows them to, but what has that got to do with the tax exempt status. Isn't that simply a way to force churches to do what the gov't wants them to?

Are businesses forced to do what the government wants them to do because of taxes? I don't have that problem in my business.

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Are businesses forced to do what the government wants them to do because of taxes? I don't have that problem in my business.

I think you missed my point... your business already pays taxes, while churches do not. The threat of losing tax exempt status could be used as a coercion to do something could it not? I supposed the gov't could come to your business just the same and say "do this or we'll raise your taxes."

Nonetheless, I still don't understand why you think that churches who won't marry anyone that wants to should lose that tax exempt status? That's apples and oranges to me...

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i came into the thread not having a problem with it because yes, churches should be allowed to discriminate all they want. but zod raised a good point with taxes. an organization should not be allowed to be tax exempt and discriminate at the same time. that is in essence government sponsored discrimination.

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What about the st jude's children's hospital? They discriminate against adults!

Tax them!

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This is going the exact direction I knew it would.

Anyone that's against that provision is about destroying church's that don't abide by the homosexual agenda.

I'd asked you Zod if the Jewish Orthodox church should be forced to marry a jew and gentile...some wouldn't allow it. They are a race. And you know...religion IS a protected civil right. What you screw isn't.

Separation of church and state doesn't mean separation of church FROM the state...it's both ways.

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What about the st jude's children's hospital? They discriminate against adults!

Tax them!

Don't point out the idiocy in Zod's arguments. He takes it personally and you'll end up a racist...wait...an ageist...or whatever.

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