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#1 Kevin Greene

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:36 AM

Those of you who dont want a retread Head Coach for the Panthers.
Best re-think what experience and stability can bring to an organization.


XXXIV

Jan. 30, 2000

Georgia Dome

St. Louis 23, Tennessee 16
Dick Vermeil, retread


XXXVI

Feb. 3, 2002

Superdome

New England 20, St. Louis 17
Bill Belichik, retread


XXXVII

Jan. 26, 2003

Qualcomm Stadium

Tampa Bay 48, Oakland 21
Jon Gruden, retread


XXXVIII

Feb. 1, 2004

Reliant Stadium (Houston)

New England 32, Carolina 29
Bill Belichick, retread


XXXIX

Feb. 6, 2005

Alltel Stadium (Jacksonville, Fla.)

New England 24, Philadelphia 21
Bill Belichick, retread


XLI

Feb. 4, 2007

Dolphin Stadium (Miami)

Indianapolis 29, Chicago 17
Tony Dungy, retread


XLII

Feb. 3, 2008

University of Phoenix Stadium (Glendale, Ariz.)

New York Giants 17, New England 14
Tom Coughlin, retread


XLVI

Feb. 5, 2012

Lucas Oil Stadium (Indianapolis)

New York Giants 21, New England Patriots 17
Tom Coughlin, retread


#2 Verge

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:37 AM

No.

#3 Way Truth Life

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:40 AM

With the team in place...we need a retread coach...if we scrap the current team then we could go a different direction.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:43 AM

Mike Tomlin
Sean Payton
Mike Mccarty

Putting a guy who was won three different super bowls who was a retread does not prove your point at all. Excluding Belichick a retread has won the super bowl 3 out of the last 7. Recent majority says new coach. 2009-2011 has been new coaches, and the dominant teams in the nfl do not have retread coaches.

Bears
49ers
Falcons
Packers
Texans
Ravens
Steelers


Dominant teams with retreads:
Broncos (Pssst, Peyton Manning)
Patriots (Pssst, Tom Brady)

#5 TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:47 AM

When I first saw thread title, thought it said "retard" HC

#6 Kevin Greene

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:50 AM

Mike Tomlin
Sean Payton
Mike Mccarty



Tomlin and McCarthy won with organizations the Panthers could only one day hope to be even close to as they have the best Front Offices in the League.
Clearly an Aints Super Bowl win was an abberation.

As to the other "dominant" NFL teams:
Get back to me when they win a Lombardi.
The other 8 years, expereince prevails.

The Carolina Panthers need s strong willed, experienced NFL Head Coach.

#7 Verge

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:53 AM

Tomlin and McCarthy won with organizations the Panthers could only one day hope to be even close to as they have the best Front Offices in the League.
Clearly an Aints Super Bowl win was an abberation.

As to the other "dominant" NFL teams:
Get back to me when they win a Lombardi.
The other 8 years, expereince prevails.

The Carolina Panthers need s strong willed, experienced NFL Head Coach.


I think you have some sort of weird fetish for Bill Cowher, it is kind of weird.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:56 AM

Well that is a bit misleading considering Belichick won 3 SBs and that was with one of the GOATs of our time.

1990 - Bill Walsh, not a retread
1991 - Parcells, not a retread
1992 - Gibbs, not a retread
1993 - Jimmy Johnson, not a retread
1994 - Same
1995 - Seifert, not a retread
1996 - Switzer, not a retread
1997 - Holmgren, not a retread
1998 - Shanny, not a retread
1999 - Same

So much for this topic doe! If anything, it shows we need to get someone from college ranks. Walsh coached at Stanford. Switzer was successful in college as as Jimmy Johnson.

Also, you are still missing my point or blatantly ignoring it.

NAME ME ONE RETREAD OUT THERE WHO WAS GOOD IN THEIR FIRST RUN FOR ONE AND TWO, WHO WANTS TO COACH ANYWAY?

And please don't name Gruden because he was not any good outside of the 2002 run. As a matter of fact, did they even win a playoff game outside of that year? They may have but I certainly don't remember it. They were largely just a mediocre team.

And Cowher/Dungy do not want to coach anymore.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:03 AM

Pretty sure it's not the 90s and the Cowboys and 49ers can no longer buy Super Bowls due to the Salary Cap.
Sorry Eddie Debartelo and Jerry Jones.

Elway and Shanny, nice job, they deserved it after Elway's 14th year in the League. (lots of experience)
Dont really want to wait that long however.

And Oh, Mike Shanahan coached the Raiders before moving to the Broncos! (retread)

#10 Verge

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:08 AM

15 out of the last 23 super bowl champs have not had retread coaches.

3 coaches out of the last 23 super bowls have been retreads and have won.

#11 Kevin Greene

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:13 AM

15 out of the last 23 super bowl champs have not had retread coaches.

3 coaches out of the last 23 super bowls have been retreads and have won.


Did you not even read my original post?
Since 2000, 8 Super Bowls have been won by retreads. I posted the results.
But you claim only 3 of the last 23 have?
Ok.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:13 AM

Mike Tomlin
Sean Payton
Mike Mccarty



no one seriously thinks Payton isnt going back to NO.. right??


we need someone with a hard line and a pair of balls..

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:15 AM

no one seriously thinks Payton isnt going back to NO.. right??


we need someone with a hard line and a pair of balls..


Personally I hope he goes to the Cowboys. ;-)

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:18 AM

i dispise the cowboys.. they dont derserve a coach that good.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:31 AM

Anything but a college coach.


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