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#1 Urrymonster

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:28 AM

But once again the offense put up just 14 points and managed 18 first downs. They achieved just 10 yards in the first quarter.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:40 AM

I would rather have an offense that puts up ten yards in the 1st quarter than a defense that gives up 14 points in less than 6 minutes... not to mention against a team with no timeouts

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:45 AM

This Oline doesnt look right, out of sync.3rd wide receiver a non factor. This line needs blown up. Smitty+Lafell+ Murphy not good enough. Smitty+a real threat+ Lafell as WR3=good enough

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:44 AM

I would rather have an offense that puts up ten yards in the 1st quarter than a defense that gives up 14 points in less than 6 minutes... not to mention against a team with no timeouts


Since the Atlanta game our offense has generated:

12 against Seattle
14 against Dallas
22 against Chicago
21 against Washington
14 against Denver
14 against Tampa

If you we're to think rationally, how often would a team generating that amount of points from offense win? The only games which I would expect a chance to win would be Chicago and Washington and we went 1-1 in those two games. Over the last 6 games we have averaged a shade over 16 points on offense.

Name one defence that can win you games with that kind of offensive production...?

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:20 AM

Since the Atlanta game our offense has generated:

12 against Seattle
14 against Dallas
22 against Chicago
21 against Washington
14 against Denver
14 against Tampa

If you we're to think rationally, how often would a team generating that amount of points from offense win? The only games which I would expect a chance to win would be Chicago and Washington and we went 1-1 in those two games. Over the last 6 games we have averaged a shade over 16 points on offense.

Name one defence that can win you games with that kind of offensive production...?


the fact of the matter is we were in a position to win the game, and the defense didnt hold up. they score a touchdown with no timeouts, ok cool they still need a 2 pt conversion. Ok, two point conversion, its tied but at least we have overtime. Nope, they march right down the field and score a touchdown. thats back to back to back situations in which the defense failed, we had an 11 point lead with 6 minutes left. Name one defense that lets that happen?

#6 Urrymonster

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:27 AM

the fact of the matter is we were in a position to win the game, and the defense didnt hold up. they score a touchdown with no timeouts, ok cool they still need a 2 pt conversion. Ok, two point conversion, its tied but at least we have overtime. Nope, they march right down the field and score a touchdown. thats back to back to back situations in which the defense failed, we had an 11 point lead with 6 minutes left. Name one defense that lets that happen?


It's much more common to see a team with momentum moving the ball easily against a tired defence. Add in a couple of questionable calls and let's be honest great plays on 4th down by them and the final drive in regular time wasn't as bad as people make out. It sucked and we should expect our defence to hold in those types of situations, but I am much more frustrated with our offense.

However, this thread is about how our offense is asking too much from a defence that has a lot of young and average players playing on it. This defence has kept the offense in games week in and week out, but the offence can't move the chains consistently.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:15 AM

just a messed up situation all around....defence is improved but thats not saying much....

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:37 AM

Blah blah blah blah. You were in a position to win that game and 29 of 32 teams in the NFL DO win that game. Your D choked. Point blank period. The offense's job is to put up more points than the opposing offense, not some arbitrary number that would make you sleep better at night. They did their job, the last time the offense touched the ball the team was up 8. Yet you end up losing by 6. "Say what you want about the Defense"? Well I will, they lost you this game.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:42 AM

Simply put they cannot finish

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:56 AM

6 close losses. Defense in the crunch has let us down. Offense in the crunch has let us down at times as well. We arent that far off. Just gotta develop a winning attitude.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:04 AM

The loss is on both sides. It's a team game. How many games have we had where a drive by the offense would have sealed the win? The defense obviously could have stopped them too but the issues are not all on one side.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:10 AM

Since the Atlanta game our offense has generated:

12 against Seattle
14 against Dallas
22 against Chicago
21 against Washington
14 against Denver
14 against Tampa

If you we're to think rationally, how often would a team generating that amount of points from offense win? The only games which I would expect a chance to win would be Chicago and Washington and we went 1-1 in those two games. Over the last 6 games we have averaged a shade over 16 points on offense.

Name one defense that can win you games with that kind of offensive production...?

Last year you could make this exact same post about our defense and most of the chuckleheads would say, "Yeah but that doesn't matter because it is all about the fourth quarter when it is "clutch time". Now that Cam and the offense has struggled some it is the opposite.

BTW Baltimore won last night while scoring 13 points.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:26 AM

The loss is on both sides. It's a team game. How many games have we had where a drive by the offense would have sealed the win? The defense obviously could have stopped them too but the issues are not all on one side.


Yea our whole team changes midway through the 4th quarter.The offense makes negative plays and look lethargic the defense goes as soft as a peni$ in Rosanne Barr's hands.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:33 AM

Defense blew their wad and offense couldn't finish.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:45 AM

What is this defence that you speak of? Are we limey's now? :)

But our defense has mostly played well this season up until crunch time. For most of the games this season, ouf offense has played poorly for the entire game. The d is better than the o by a longshot, but the team has mental problems right now. While its not all Rivera's fault, he and the rest of the coaching staff are going to have to go.


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