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#71 MadHatter

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:29 PM

and why would he tell you of all people this tidbit of info?that might also explains why at times you see him go threw progressions when reading defenses.


You do realize that going through your progressions and reading defenses are two completely different things.

Reading the defense is recognizing what the defense is doing before the snap. Seeing the coverage scheme...seeing where the blitz is coming...understanding what the defense is trying to do based on formations and movements.

Going through your progressions is quickly moving to your second, third, and fourth options if the previous ones are not open.

Not even close to the same things.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:29 PM

Believe what you want, but he lives in my neighborhood.

And, laughing at you if you think I care what some loser like you on the Internet believes.

I'm a loser but you've resorted to making up stories on the internet.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:30 PM

I'm sorry but If we got rid of Cam I would have to find a new team. No way you can give up on such a talent so young in his career.


I completely agree. Everyone knew he was still raw in certain aspects if the game when he was drafted. I always thought it would take 3-4 seasons for him to fully develop his game. And I still think that is accurate.



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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:32 PM

I'm a loser but you've resorted to making up stories on the internet.

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Like I said...believe what you want. Makes no difference to me.

Just because you don't know anyone related to the team does not mean that others don't too.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:35 PM

All he said is that Cam really struggles reading defenses right now and that the current staff is trying to make it easier for him. He did not say that he thought he could not learn.....Just that he has gotten by in the past by being the best athlete in the field, including at Auburn. He had never really had to be a student if the game in the past and now he is struggling with that part if it.

It is just a part if the game that he now has to learn and work hard on.


I don't find it unusual a coach would tell you that, or that it's really unusual a QB with as little real experience as Cam has would have difficulty reading defenses. He has a lot of catching up to do after just 1 year in the SEC and 1 in the NFL.

That said, I don't get the people that say he can't run a "pro style" offense as that is the style in which he has performed best. His performance declined when we went from 55% or 60% shotgun with 2 TE's and a more balanced attack to 80%+ shotgun, a single TE, lots of read option and a very unsuccessful running game.

Rather than focus on developing him further as a QB, they choose to dumb things down, and all that's done is hurt his game. Let him learn just like everyone else. It's not like what we're doing is working anyway.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:37 PM

All he said is that Cam really struggles reading defenses right now and that the current staff is trying to make it easier for him. He did not say that he thought he could not learn.....Just that he has gotten by in the past by being the best athlete in the field, including at Auburn. He had never really had to be a student if the game in the past and now he is struggling with that part if it.

It is just a part if the game that he now has to learn and work hard on.



Not this moronic stuff again about he is not a student of the game. Was he not a student of the game when he showed up to every off season workout? Or what about when he had rewatched every throw he made before the superbowl last season? What about when he showed up to the Rookie camp despite not being one?

How about Sam Bradford? Or Stafford? or Cutler? Why is it I NEVER hear they are not "students of the game"?

lol what about Gabbert? Does your friend suggest that he has trouble reading defenses?

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:37 PM

Like I said...believe what you want. Makes no difference to me.

Just because you don't know anyone related to the team does not mean that others don't too.


Don't assume. I ran into to Hurney at the gym the other day. He told me that Cam routinely puts his cleats on the wrong feet and that's why his footwork is so bad. That's not my opinion though, that's what I was told. So yeah, there's that.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:39 PM

I don't find it unusual a coach would tell you that, or that it's really unusual a QB with as little real experience as Cam has would have difficulty reading defenses. He has a lot of catching up to do after just 1 year in the SEC and 1 in the NFL.

That said, I don't get the people that say he can't run a "pro style" offense as that is the style in which he has performed best. His performance declined when we went from 55% or 60% shotgun with 2 TE's and a more balanced attack to 80%+ shotgun, a single TE, lots of read option and a very unsuccessful running game.

Rather than focus on developing him further as a QB, they choose to dumb things down, and all that's done is hurt his game. Let him learn just like everyone else. It's not like what we're doing is working anyway.


I 100% agree with you that I also think their decision has hurt his development and not helped him in any way.

And, I only asked him because he was key go by the team. I thought he might be more open to giving his opinion. I had talked to him several times before at the pool. Never asked this kind if question for two reasons.

It would put him in an awkward position and I would never expect a current coach to really answer the question.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:41 PM

Don't assume. I ran into to Hurney at the gym the other day. He told me that Cam routinely puts his cleats on the wrong feet and that's why his footwork is so bad. That's not my opinion though, that's what I was told. So yeah, there's that.


Nice try. You fail at humor just like you do logic.

Your parents must be sooooo proud if you. Making it off the short bus was more than they could have ever imagined for you.

Understand that I don't really care if you believe me. If you don't...that is your prerogative and that is cool.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:44 PM

I don't find it unusual a coach would tell you that, or that it's really unusual a QB with as little real experience as Cam has would have difficulty reading defenses. He has a lot of catching up to do after just 1 year in the SEC and 1 in the NFL.

That said, I don't get the people that say he can't run a "pro style" offense as that is the style in which he has performed best. His performance declined when we went from 55% or 60% shotgun with 2 TE's and a more balanced attack to 80%+ shotgun, a single TE, lots of read option and a very unsuccessful running game.

Rather than focus on developing him further as a QB, they choose to dumb things down, and all that's done is hurt his game. Let him learn just like everyone else. It's not like what we're doing is working anyway.



Exactly. His production fell when he started to run read option. Funny thing is...when we stop running it and start with more pro-sets, under center stuff (ie Chicago and first series against Denver) Cam has look extremely good. And last year...well we all know how much he struggled last year running pro sets and "reading defenses."


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