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For 12 mill we can get any 4 mofo's with an upside...Fricken Hurney has this team so hamstrung its going to take a minimum of 2 years to dig outta this mess...

Yep. We are screwed for a few seasons. It's pretty pathetic the shape we are in.

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Having met Beason, he is our Ray Lewis on Defense, he's the Defenses Capt and true leader, I think Zod will agree with me on that with him also having spent time around him.

I think cutting Beason would be a huge mistake, yes he hasn't been around lately but the guy when he gets back healthy again will be a force to reckon with. I still think he's our best player on defense when healthy.

Gamble may be old but he's our best CB, and with the way our backfield is right now it needs all the help it can get.

I agree on both accounts, but do you think Beason will want to move to the outside if they want to keep Jake inside. Ive laready read a statemtn by him staying he want to stay inside.

I agree with you on gamble, but would he take a pay cut or redo his contract to stay? thats the question.

Gross is aging and people are beating him up, but is it possible his slightly off season has to due with a rookie LG that hes trying to over compensate for? I cant see him having a big drop off like this this fast.

Hurney hurt us by making theses contracts. I love Dwill and JS, but we all know we could not afford to pay them both and fill holes that needed to be filled. one will have to go.

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I agree on both accounts, but do you think Beason will want to move to the outside if they want to keep Jake inside. Ive laready read a statemtn by him staying he want to stay inside.

I agree with you on gamble, but would he take a pay cut or redo his contract to stay? thats the question.

Gross is aging and people are beating him up, but is it possible his slightly off season has to due with a rookie LG that hes trying to over compensate for? I cant see him having a big drop off like this this fast.

Hurney hurt us by making theses contracts. I love Dwill and JS, but we all know we could not afford to pay them both and fill holes that needed to be filled. one will have to go.

think about what you are saying.

You are suggesting that the Panthers move an All-pro MLB to WLB in favor of a rookie? Now yes the rookie has played well, but he's not Beason.

I think we can all agree Beason came back too soon this season and ended up costing himself this season because of that. Next season I don't believe that to be the case

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Its threads like this that remind me how glad I am that people on internet message boards don't make any real decisions.

what is your opinion on who should be cut/restructured? specifically gross/gamble/dwill/beason, as they tie up the biggest portion of the cap and, for various reasons, contribute the least compared to their salary or have the lowest upside (or time left in the league.)

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Look hers my list of players that you will see leave this off season.

Dwill HB $8.7M

Gamble CB $9.75M

Murphy WR $1.26M

Clausen QB $815K

Brokel FB/TE $465K

A Edwards WR $668K

Munnerlyn CB $1.323M

Martin FS $850K

Beason LB $5.50M I dont see him staying or wanting to stay if Luke stays MLB

Gross OT $11.5M Will be cut or they attempt to redue his contract $11.5 this season

Hartsock TE $1.040M

Thats almost $42M off the cap that we can do without. Due to age or skills or the fact we do noit need 3 QB's, 4-5 TE's and so on

You have no idea how the cap works do you? Beason and Deangelo carry HUGE cap hits if you cut/trade them....

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Beason... bye. Anderson/Keek/draft pick

Gamble... bye. The Josh's can take over.

Davis... back-up or bye.

Gross... bye. First pick needs to be o-line.

Smitty... restructure?

D-Lo... bye. Stewie and Tolbert.

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Former Cleveland GM Phil Savage is said to be interested in the job, according to a league source. The Browns went 18-30 in Savage’s three-year tenure from 2006-08. Savage, a former Browns assistant under Bill Belichick, is the executive director of the Senior Bowl and Alabama’s color analyst.

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Beason... bye. Anderson/Keek/draft pick

Gamble... bye. The Josh's can take over.

Davis... back-up or bye.

Gross... bye. First pick needs to be o-line.

Smitty... restructure?

D-Lo... bye. Stewie and Tolbert.

0-16 season.

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For 12 mill we can get any 4 mofo's with an upside...Fricken Hurney has this team so hamstrung its going to take a minimum of 2 years to dig outta this mess...

This is what people need to realize...we will need to rebuild next year. We will need to make some difficult cuts/trades.

Either Beason or J. Anderson will have to go. It's not feasible for Anderson to become a back-up LB after he's been our reliable starter at LB for the past 2-3 years. It's not feasible for Beason to go back to MLB after we've invested our future into Kuechly and he's been excelling at MLB. Something will have to give.

IMO, Gamble and Gross are gone. We will need that extra cap room in order to make some other necessary cuts.

Godrey should be gone since he has a relatively low cap hit and he's been a disappointment

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If it could be done I would have no problem blowing this whole team up and starting from scratch with all new players, coaches, training staff and front office. What good times did we have as a team in the last several years, that make any of these guys irreplaceable ? I say do what needs to be done as a five year plan to get us to the NFC championship personalities be damned.

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You have no idea how the cap works do you? Beason and Deangelo carry HUGE cap hits if you cut/trade them....

Yeah yeah yeah guaranteed money and all that. blah blah blah.... The funds that I threw up were an attempt ot show how stupid the GM was. DWll hit is due to the time of his contract (remaining time). Sam thing with Beason who signed his extension the same year as Dwill new contract. So yes I do know how it works very much so. But there are ways around these things and ways to stretch the hit out a little bit.

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whoever comes in is gonna have to find a masterful way to ease some of these guys out who we can't afford to trade by using the talents they do have and drafting guys specifically to replace them at the time of their projected departure. i expect one or two cuts (and maybe a little bit of restructuring) but we'll probably be making one or two key free agency signings and betting on a solid draft.

truth be told if we have a competent coaching staff next season those changes should easily be enough to make us competitive right off the bat, and the following season we'll be able to really start molding and tailoring the way we want this team's personnel dynamic to look.

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