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Ugly personnel decisions on the way

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we are two starting-caliber offensive linemen away from competency on offense and two extra defensive players from competency on defense. toss in coordinators and coaches that can motivate, lead, and manage games worth half a poo and we'll look damn good next year.

hurney has left a legacy of problems for sure but we are far from hamstrung.

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Tough to make trades when the rest of the league knows you have cap problems.

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Maybe the NFL will forgive some of our cap hits next year since we still paint the NFL shield at midfield in BofA. Loyalty pays?

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think about what you are saying.

You are suggesting that the Panthers move an All-pro MLB to WLB in favor of a rookie? Now yes the rookie has played well, but he's not Beason.

I think we can all agree Beason came back too soon this season and ended up costing himself this season because of that. Next season I don't believe that to be the case

I don't know, I have to disagree with that statement.

I love Beason as much as the next guy, one of my all-time Panther favorites. However, I think we have the next Urlacher on our hands, something really special that will be a force for years. He is leading all rookies in tackles and looks very comfortable in the MLB position, why damper his progression and put in an aging vet? Unless Beason seriously restructures his contract, moves to the outside, or just takes a leadership role, I think we should pay our respects and let him catch on with another team. Always hate to see a guy like Beason go but it's for the better...

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Let Andy go and keep Beast. Beast is a better LB and well worth the money when he comes back fully recovered next season.

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there is alot of players that wont be here. clausen, d-will, beason, gross, munnrlyn, naka, adams, pilares, a edwards...

..hope we get some good picks...

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Let Andy go and keep Beast. Beast is a better LB and well worth the money when he comes back fully recovered next season.

Yea, cant part just yet with Beason...He brings a great attitude to the D plus an incredible work ethic...We knew it was going to take 2 season for him to heal.... plus how long did we wait on TD...

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Yea, cant part just yet with Beason...He brings a great attitude to the D plus an incredible work ethic...We knew it was going to take 2 season for him to heal.... plus how long did we wait on TD...

Exactly. He needs to restructure, but I don't think it's time to part ways with him just yet. He is like TD: Far too talented when healthy to let him go until we're sure he's absolutely done for.

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that is more of the same.....

our leaders are Gross, Smith, Gamble, etc......and everyone talks about how leadership in Carolina had be horrible. Front office guys. Coaches. etc.

We need to be gutted of the Fox era boys. If you played in a NFCCG with Fox......it is time to go.

So we should get rid of Fox era players and start from stratch, I disagree. I think that we should build on the good players that we have. It would make no sense to dump productive players. What we need is a coaching staff that can coach, build our identity around the players we have. If we dump our best players, we would be worst off because we'd have to get them were we already are, then we'd still need what we need right now...Coaching

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Beason/D-Will/Gross all need to either be restructured or released. I love all three but them being overpaid handicaps the team.

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Look hers my list of players that you will see leave this off season.

Dwill HB $8.7M

Gamble CB $9.75M

Murphy WR $1.26M

Clausen QB $815K

Brokel FB/TE $465K

A Edwards WR $668K

Munnerlyn CB $1.323M

Martin FS $850K

Beason LB $5.50M I dont see him staying or wanting to stay if Luke stays MLB

Gross OT $11.5M Will be cut or they attempt to redue his contract $11.5 this season

Hartsock TE $1.040M

Thats almost $42M off the cap that we can do without. Due to age or skills or the fact we do noit need 3 QB's, 4-5 TE's and so on

Unfortunately you have to look at the net impact to the cap and that usually means you will only come out ahead on players going into the last year or two of a big contract. It does no good to waive or trade someone like Beason because his remaining bonus is greater than his 2013 salary + 2013 bonus. The hit to the 2013 cap is lower if we keep him. We can ask a player to restructure but that's up to the player. Unfortunately Hurney locked up several players who fall into this category so the new GM does not have much wiggle room.

It's been a while since I looked but I think the only three salaries that looked like no brainers were Gross, Gamble and Ron Edwards. I think we could free up something like 12 million between those three players if we outright release them. There are some special rules regarding release dates, IR contract rules and some other things that might be to our advantage but I think if you want real chunks of cap room you will have to look at those three players.

I'm only looking at this from a numbers perspective. This is not a comment on the talent of those players.

I do remember last spring seeing that we were paying Lee Ziemba something close to $1M for 2012 and I could not figure out how a 7th round pick managed to get a contract like that.

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the same people calling for all these players to be cut/traded or whatever.................

will be the same ones saying we have no leadership next season.

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