the saints were in better shape to turn things around because they had a solid system (on offense anyway) already in place and a solid internal core with brees kind of at the helm.
I agree that he should be fired. We just don't have anyone on the staff qualified to take over. That's why the saints looked so bad at the start of the season
that kind of thing happens when you have the benefit of being in a system for that long and brees has years of experience in the role of a leader to draw from.
as much as i can't stand them or payton, he did set it up pretty well. they may not be as good as they have been, but they are still very dangerous and doing better than us.
we just don't have what it takes for this team to do well on it's own. as bad as things are now...it would be much worse without a committed coach.
we wouldn't be close in any game. there would be no fight. there would be no point and as much as that sounds like the kind of team pantherstrain wants because awesome draft pick or whatever...that is death to a team and players would be taking discounts to try and get away.
people just aren't being rational when looking at this picture.