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#25 rippadonn

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:29 AM

What do Cam Newton and John Gruden have in common?........They're both icons and entertainers! :cool: The combined swagger of Gruden and Newton would be off the charts and everybody in the NFL would totally hate us. Gruden would love to crush Tampa Bay and New Orleans twice a year.

I don't want a college coach or the next thing assistant. We need a guy with head coaching experience to be the leader of this team. Is Gruden that guy? I don't know, but the media here would be ridiculous if Gruden and Cam were united.

Say what you want about Chucky but he has been successful and may just be the type of icon entertainer coach Cam may need. There is no doubt he has helped QB's. He a good offensive mind who knows what Smitty and DeAngelo can do firsthand and has confessed his love for both men. He would immediately control the locker room before stepping foot into the place.

Is Chucky better than Rivera? ...OK, how about John Fox?.. I don't know if John Gruden would be a success here but I know it would be iconic and entertaining if it all went down and ESPN would be all over it.

I wouldn't totally dismiss the notion. This young team needs a real head coach.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:50 AM

You might give him a little credit.



A little maybe. The rest goes to Monte Kiffin.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:11 AM

A little maybe. The rest goes to Monte Kiffin.

they wouldn't have gone to the superbowl or been nearly as successful without kiffin.

gruden made a bad offense less bad.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:41 AM

The QB situation in Tampa under Gruden was a consistent mess. I don't know how you could overlook that.

If you had to pinpoint a reason for Gruden's departure it would be his inability to develop a QB.

#29 Bwood

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:52 AM

Gruden honestly wouldn't be a bad option. We would totally turn into the NY Jets 2.0 with him and cam, though.

I really want a young, furry offensive minded college coach if I had a choice.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:56 AM

Gruden honestly wouldn't be a bad option. We would totally turn into the NY Jets 2.0 with him and cam, though.

I really want a young, furry offensive minded college coach if I had a choice.


You want a furry coach? That's disturbing.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:11 AM

The QB situation in Tampa under Gruden was a consistent mess. I don't know how you could overlook that.

If you had to pinpoint a reason for Gruden's departure it would be his inability to develop a QB.

and it wasn't like he didn't have a lot to choose from. he was given lots of QBs, in fact it was getting to the point of being a joke around the league that gruden collected QBs more than anyone but still couldn't do anything with them...and him supposedly being a QB guru.

that team won because of the defense and in spite of the offense.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:17 AM

You want a furry coach? That's disturbing.


iPhone + graveyard shift, makes fiery = furry.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:19 AM

The QB situation in Tampa under Gruden was a consistent mess. I don't know how you could overlook that.

If you had to pinpoint a reason for Gruden's departure it would be his inability to develop a QB.


After the Super Bowl win it certainly was.
Brian Griese, Chris Simms, Bruce Gradkowski.
The one young QB Gruden probably thought would work long term, well the Panthers removed his spleen. ;-)
The Bucs went 11-5 with Chris Simms as QB.
He actually made the PLayoffs again with Jeff Garcia, lol.