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#21 Way Truth Life

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:56 PM

What about his .540 win percentage (which was even higher in Oakland where he built it from the ground up so you can't give all that credit to Dungy), 5 division championships, and Super Bowl win?

Are those good reasons?

Stop making sense....that doesn't work here!

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:27 PM

out of all the retreads, Gruden is the only one i'd take....

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:06 AM

I get everyone on Tampa, but what about Oakland?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:25 AM

He took Dungy's Bucs to the basement in record time.

Do not want.

The Bucs were Dungy's team.

Gruden ran that team into the ground. He played 'musical chairs' with his QBs and by the time he was done, the players were ready to mutiny rather than ever play for him again

Absolutely and emphatically, no.


Then the same must absolutely be said that Bill Callahan took Gruden's Raiders to the Super Bowl to face Gruden and the Bucs.

Tony Dungy was 2-4 in the PLayoffs with the Bucs during his 6 years in Tampa Bay including One and Done his last 2 years in Tamp Bay.
Jon Gruden brought TB a Lombardi in one year.
You might give him a little credit.
Following his career as Head Coach of the Colts Tony Dungy 4 times was One and Done in Indy in the Playoffs during his tenure.
This with Peyton Manning as his QB.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:29 AM

What do Cam Newton and John Gruden have in common?........They're both icons and entertainers! :cool: The combined swagger of Gruden and Newton would be off the charts and everybody in the NFL would totally hate us. Gruden would love to crush Tampa Bay and New Orleans twice a year.

I don't want a college coach or the next thing assistant. We need a guy with head coaching experience to be the leader of this team. Is Gruden that guy? I don't know, but the media here would be ridiculous if Gruden and Cam were united.

Say what you want about Chucky but he has been successful and may just be the type of icon entertainer coach Cam may need. There is no doubt he has helped QB's. He a good offensive mind who knows what Smitty and DeAngelo can do firsthand and has confessed his love for both men. He would immediately control the locker room before stepping foot into the place.

Is Chucky better than Rivera? ...OK, how about John Fox?.. I don't know if John Gruden would be a success here but I know it would be iconic and entertaining if it all went down and ESPN would be all over it.

I wouldn't totally dismiss the notion. This young team needs a real head coach.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:50 AM

You might give him a little credit.



A little maybe. The rest goes to Monte Kiffin.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:11 AM

A little maybe. The rest goes to Monte Kiffin.

they wouldn't have gone to the superbowl or been nearly as successful without kiffin.

gruden made a bad offense less bad.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:41 AM

The QB situation in Tampa under Gruden was a consistent mess. I don't know how you could overlook that.

If you had to pinpoint a reason for Gruden's departure it would be his inability to develop a QB.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:52 AM

Gruden honestly wouldn't be a bad option. We would totally turn into the NY Jets 2.0 with him and cam, though.

I really want a young, furry offensive minded college coach if I had a choice.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:56 AM

Gruden honestly wouldn't be a bad option. We would totally turn into the NY Jets 2.0 with him and cam, though.

I really want a young, furry offensive minded college coach if I had a choice.


You want a furry coach? That's disturbing.


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