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Your Opinion on the Target, WalMart, (Other Bigbox Retailer Here) Thanksgiving Protests

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Honestly Christmas shopping could wait one more day. Stupid reason to keep people away from their family.

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Lots of folks work on holidays besides big box employees and you dont see them whining about it.

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how come nobody protested 20 years ago when.........

it was only Convenience stores and Chinese restaurants open on turkey day?

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I'm really torn.

I don't think the retailers should open but I also think that if you took a job with them you should have known that you'd be working holidays so STFU and go to work.

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You gotta know your industry, and ALL forms of business are being asked to do more, including things nobody would have considered 10 years ago.

If you're in retail you should know you're going to get screwed around holidays. My buddy has been at Guitar Center since day one in Matthews and even though he doesn't like working every holiday he always says "that's retail".

I do feel a little sorry for them, but if you're working retail you need that job much more than they need you. Tis life...

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when I was 17 and didn't really need to work, I quit Kmart during the holidays. It didn't take long to get sick of that ish.

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My son has to be at work at 3AM Friday morning, work till 11 AM, then back at 4PM and work til close (Rack Room Shoes). He's 17 and I hope he realizes that making good grades will free him from retail hell.

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While I agree that we simply work to much in the US (I also lived overseas where places closed at 5:00 or even earlier at random) I also think that if you are a sales associate at Wal-Mart you don't have much leg to stand on.

Love or hate Wal-MArt they have provided a segment of jobs that didn't exist before.

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thanksgiving day and black friday sales, as well as "big box retailers" in general, encapsulate much of what is wrong with america so i'm ok with the protests

congratulations, you have bought into corporate propaganda. yes, be mad at those willing to actually take a stand while you were "working slave jobs from 18-25 or so and were asked to work holidays away from your family" rather than the people who made you do it in the first place.

"where was the government when i was a child laborer from 8 or so? what makes these kids anymore deserving of a childhood devoid of 60 hour work weeks in textile mills than those who didn't have a national child labor committee just 5 years ago?" said great grandpa proudiddy

No, maybe I didn't make myself clear... I don't buy into anything "corporate" in regards to what they're selling. When I worked jobs like that, I viewed it as though I was going to work for "my business." I was CEO of Proudiddy International, I wasn't working for Target or Walmart, I was working for me. If they got in the way of getting my money with minimal problems, I made it hard on them or quit.

I got caught up in ranting, basically about how it's an issue now to other people because of those stupid online petitions... But, my true issue is how such petitions are asking others to validate their position, when truly, they have bought into the corporate propaganda if they don't realize they hold power over their own employment. Why can't people be responsible for themselves?

All these retailers have been doing the same crap for years, and I agree they are a part of "the problem," but an even bigger problem is people not asserting themselves when it comes to their own situation from the jump. That's why retailers have felt they can work employees like slaves, no questions asked. Now that I've bought into their agenda, go ahead, ask me how many holidays I've worked in my life... LOL.

That's my problem. Another example that comes to mind of people not asserting themselves individually, and then even collectively in those type of workplaces - After I decided I wasn't working anymore of those jobs unless I was hired in as a manager and I was in college, I was walking down the aisle at a Target in Durham. There was two young guys "zoning" or fronting the shelves... They were talking as they were doing it, laughing, etc. But they were working. All of a sudden this manager walks by and is completely in the zone - head straight forward, focused, not looking at anything around him. Then the manager passes the aisle the two young guys were on... He hears them talking and laughing as they're working. It's like it clicked a minute later... He stops, turns around, walks back to their aisle and says, "So it takes two of you to work this one aisle? Split up!" I wanted to choke that manager for them. But, they both put their head down, acted like two children whose mother just scolded them, and split up with not a word said back...

And it's funny you mocked my position with the "great grandpa schtick" as well referring to child labor because my first job was at a Hardee's, at 15, in which my manager worked us mercilessly and held me and several other kids well over the child labor hours on school nights... That was a good time though, lol.

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uh i'm pretty sure workers were fighting for things like weekends and holidays off long before internet petitions

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uh i'm pretty sure workers were fighting for things like weekends and holidays off long before internet petitions

Yes, but I'm saying why does it matter NOW because of internet petitions?

Before that, you had to make your decision and live with it - on your own. Or if you were lucky, you could rally up other employees to join you, but good luck getting those already brainwashed in those places to walk out with you.

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but isn't that a good thing? why is networking and organizing a bad thing? i don't really see the problem with petitions

also i don't know if i'd call, say, employees who don't walk out or strike or whatever "brainwashed." if you work at walmart you're probably a wage slave already and it's not easy to leverage your labor against the waltons when you depend on your paycheck to survive

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