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What's the reason Cam is not a captain on this team?


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#211 Gabeking

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:03 PM

Nope. Not the only. But it matters more than yards. Personally I've always been biased towards the win-loss stat as my favorite.


Why don't you get off the damn Internet right about now, you need a break...

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:04 PM

People bitch about the OL and pressure, yet he has the 8th longest time per pass play.

This only matters at all if you choose to ignore context. Time per pass only measures from snap, to when the ball leaves the finger tips. It doesn't measure having constant pressure in your face but being a scrambler able to make an extra 2 seconds for yourself in panic.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:08 PM

This only matters at all if you choose to ignore context. Time per pass only measures from snap, to when the ball leaves the finger tips. It doesn't measure having constant pressure in your face but being a scrambler able to make an extra 2 seconds for yourself in panic.


Panic describes it perfectly.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:09 PM

This only matters at all if you choose to ignore context. Time per pass only measures from snap, to when the ball leaves the finger tips. It doesn't measure having constant pressure in your face but being a scrambler able to make an extra 2 seconds for yourself in panic.


Of all my complaints I think the OL has been okay. The Denver game was just sad but this team needs talent and play makers. We need TEs and WRs and an offensive ID not based on gimmick option plays.

We have one game changer on this team. We need more.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:21 PM

Panic describes it perfectly.

Yep, almost all young QBs run around in panic when they're under pressure. Cam, Gabbert, Griffin, Luck. Part of developing. Some turn into David Carr, some turn into Brett Favre.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:24 PM

Yep, almost all young QBs run around in panic when they're under pressure. Cam, Gabbert, Griffin, Luck. Part of developing. Some turn into David Carr, some turn into Brett Favre.



So either way no good thing comes out of it.

#217 Panthercougar68

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:25 PM

Why didn't this thread it when someone said the right answer....

He's not ready...yet

That is why there should be no more arguing about it.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:59 PM

Just helping her out. She doesn't know her reputation is screwed just for agreeing with me.

BTW, I've never had an alt. I got banned. I had to make new user names, but never posted with 2 alts simultaneously on this site.


PS: I sense someone wanted attention. Hooked you up.


What about when you created your own forum and made 5 or 6 alts to try and team up on people who disagreed with you, only to find out that after soliciting it constantly here on the Hudlle, that no one else wanted to talk to you besides yourself so you shut it down.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:09 PM

I know the guy is an idiot.

But, in this case he does have a ton of stats that actually do show that Cam is not getting it done this year.

People bitch about the OL and pressure, yet he has the 8th longest time per pass play.

The whole offense us struggling this year. I do place a bunch of that blame on the coaches and scheme, but Cam is not getting it done either.

There are many more barometers to O-line play than time per pass that is affecting Cam and the whole offense.

For example, it isn't a coincidence that the run game is struggling just as much as the pass game this year. Career lows in YPA for both Stewart and Williams this year.

Also at times our o-line has been bad enough that we are keeping 6 or seven guys in to block only 4 or five defensive pass rushers. On those plays we are getting more time to throw but we have 3 receivers trying to get open against 6 or 7 defenders in coverage.

Also scrambling accounts for extended passing time even if protection isn't ideal.

Oh yeah, and also Cam sometimes hold the ball too long and doesn't make quick enough decisions. Again there is a lot of blame to go around for everyone.

#220 BBQ&Beer

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:12 PM

What about when you created your own forum and made 5 or 6 alts to try and team up on people who disagreed with you, only to find out that after soliciting it constantly here on the Hudlle, that no one else wanted to talk to you besides yourself so you shut it down.


Lol! Really?

#221 ReturnOfPFFL

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:29 PM

What about when you created your own forum and made 5 or 6 alts to try and team up on people who disagreed with you, only to find out that after soliciting it constantly here on the Hudlle, that no one else wanted to talk to you besides yourself so you shut it down.


What about it?

You keep bringing this up and we already discussed. There were 3-4 huddle members that posted there. You were one of them. It's pretty typical when you try to start a community to have low traffic and to create alts in order to drive traffic. If you ever attempt to start one, you will know this. Most forums start this way, even this one used to have a BOT, but I assure you there were no alts ganging up on you, disrespected you or poked fun of you. The entire idea of having alts when u start off a forum, is to create a DIFFERENT opinion, so you have it a bit twisted there. It's just some of the Huddle members that posted there, happened to agree with what I was saying. Naturally, no? That was the entire point. They wanted a place where a difference of opinion wouldn't result in the trolling that took place here.

Not that I need to share the details to you but I shut it down, because for one I didn't own the rights to the domain name and I just didn't have the passion to support this franchise anymore, especially in such a big way. For another, the official Panthers boards got turned back on, and that's sufficient. The forum was actually moving a long pretty fast in its first week, and I put it offline to re-design it, and changed the front page before I decided to pull the plug on it.

But to insinuate people didn't want to talk to me, well heck, you know that's a lie. Even you can't help yourself. You love me more than anyone else here.

I still don't see what it has to do with this discussion. So I'm assuming this just another attempt on your part to try and have a personal discussion about me when you find yourself on the losing end of argument?

#222 Gabeking

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:42 PM

What about it?

You keep bringing this up and we already discussed. There were 3-4 huddle members that posted there. You were one of them. It's pretty typical when you try to start a community to have low traffic and to create alts in order to drive traffic. If you ever attempt to start one, you will know this. Most forums start this way, even this one used to have a BOT, but I assure you there were no alts ganging up on you, disrespected you or poked fun of you. The entire idea of having alts when u start off a forum, is to create a DIFFERENT opinion, so you have it a bit twisted there. It's just some of the Huddle members that posted there, happened to agree with what I was saying. Naturally, no? That was the entire point. They wanted a place where a difference of opinion wouldn't result in the trolling that took place here.

Not that I need to share the details to you but I shut it down, because for one I didn't own the rights to the domain name and I just didn't have the passion to support this franchise anymore, especially in such a big way. For another, the official Panthers boards got turned back on, and that's sufficient. The forum was actually moving a long pretty fast in its first week, and I put it offline to re-design it, and changed the front page before I decided to pull the plug on it.

But to insinuate people didn't want to talk to me, well heck, you know that's a lie. Even you can't help yourself. You love me more than anyone else here.

I still don't see what it has to do with this discussion. So I'm assuming this just another attempt on your part to try and have a personal discussion about me when you find yourself on the losing end of argument?


Do you have anything better to do?? Seriously???

#223 teeray

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:48 PM

What about it?

You keep bringing this up and we already discussed. There were 3-4 huddle members that posted there. You were one of them. It's pretty typical when you try to start a community to have low traffic and to create alts in order to drive traffic. If you ever attempt to start one, you will know this. Most forums start this way, even this one used to have a BOT, but I assure you there were no alts ganging up on you, disrespected you or poked fun of you. The entire idea of having alts when u start off a forum, is to create a DIFFERENT opinion, so you have it a bit twisted there. It's just some of the Huddle members that posted there, happened to agree with what I was saying. Naturally, no? That was the entire point. They wanted a place where a difference of opinion wouldn't result in the trolling that took place here.

Not that I need to share the details to you but I shut it down, because for one I didn't own the rights to the domain name and I just didn't have the passion to support this franchise anymore, especially in such a big way. For another, the official Panthers boards got turned back on, and that's sufficient. The forum was actually moving a long pretty fast in its first week, and I put it offline to re-design it, and changed the front page before I decided to pull the plug on it.

But to insinuate people didn't want to talk to me, well heck, you know that's a lie. Even you can't help yourself. You love me more than anyone else here.

I still don't see what it has to do with this discussion. So I'm assuming this just another attempt on your part to try and have a personal discussion about me when you find yourself on the losing end of argument?


I did post over there. Because you actually called me out on that website because you were already banned from this website. Then created an alt on this website to bring it to my attention just so I would respond because you know that I am easily trolled.

And I do respond to you more than any of the other posters on here, that is true. And at times I find it actually a great deal of fun going back and forth with you. I probably humor you more than you deserve. But when people say silly things, I tend to respond. You just happen to say silly things more often than most posters.

#224 ReturnOfPFFL

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:50 PM

Do you have anything better to do?? Seriously???


Not right now, no. Do you? I'm having a discussion, why the fug are you in here..again? Seriously. Explain to me why you constantly come in here, quote my posts and keep making your stupid comments.


Are you that bored?

#225 Panthercougar68

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:52 PM

So who takes one for the team and turns this into a race thread ie locked


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