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What's the reason Cam is not a captain on this team?


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#91 MadHatter

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:17 PM

I balk at the idea he's not a leader. Because I saw him take a avg.to below avg. Auburn team to a undefeated championship season.

Fact only 3 players were drafted off that team and we all know that. Neither Lee Ziemba or Fairly are leaders.

Fact his coach at Auburn is 2 years from being a national champion to unemployed.

Fact the team has fallen apart since he left. The rb was kicked out of school. None of his wr (at Auburn) will make it in the league. They went from Number 1 to unranked after he left.

Point is he took a undisciplined, poorly coach, and undertalented team to a championship. How many of the Qb drafted highly in the last 5 or 10 years can say that?


You and Cam can relive his glory days in college. I am more concerned with his play as the Panthers QB. His record is 8-18 and he folds in the 4th.

QB's can get away with just pure athletic ability in college. But, it requires much more than that. And these are the things that Csm has yet to learn.

But hey....did you see how great he was in college.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:20 PM

Only one fact to know. That your beloved Cam was NOT voted a captain....even after he set multiple rookie QB records.

This speaks volumes. This team dies NOT see him as a leader yet.


Does your teams QB not getting voted captain make you feel better about your own self as a man? I don't mean to offend. Just saying, in all your posts about our quarterback, you seem to be a bit too enthusiastic about any deficiencies mentioned about him. Seems personal, none of us even know the guy.

#93 MadHatter

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:27 PM

Does your teams QB not getting voted captain make you feel better about your own self as a man? I don't mean to offend. Just saying, in all your posts about our quarterback, you seem to be a bit too enthusiastic about any deficiencies mentioned about him. Seems personal, none of us even know the guy.


Not personal at all. I think Cam will be a great QB...but I believe he still has a lot to work on. Hiwever, The Cam Fanboys who believe his poo does not stink are the ones my comments are directed to.

Their continuous blaming of everyone from the coaches to the OL to the defense to the WR's for his wvery mistake is comical, I am waiting for one if them to blame the water boy because he gave Cam the wrong brand of bottled water.

Cam is not THE ONLY reason for our offensive issues this season...but he is partially to blame. And that is something that a group of posters on here can't accept.

#94 MadHatter

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:28 PM

Does your teams QB not getting voted captain make you feel better about your own self as a man? I don't mean to offend. Just saying, in all your posts about our quarterback, you seem to be a bit too enthusiastic about any deficiencies mentioned about him. Seems personal, none of us even know the guy.


Personally I could care less who is voted captain. I just find it absolutely hilarious to read how his nut huggers club are now blaming others for why he was not selected.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:31 PM

You and Cam can relive his glory days in college. I am more concerned with his play as the Panthers QB. His record is 8-18 and he folds in the 4th.

Saying Cam folds in the 4th is pure ignorance. When he left the field against the Bucs we were up by 8. When he left the field against the Bears we were up by 2. Cam performs quite well in the 4th; our D folds.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:33 PM

Not personal at all. I think Cam will be a great QB...but I believe he still has a lot to work on. Hiwever, The Cam Fanboys who believe his poo does not stink are the ones my comments are directed to.

Their continuous blaming of everyone from the coaches to the OL to the defense to the WR's for his wvery mistake is comical, I am waiting for one if them to blame the water boy because he gave Cam the wrong brand of bottled water.

Cam is not THE ONLY reason for our offensive issues this season...but he is partially to blame. And that is something that a group of posters on here can't accept.


Honestly these "fan boys" you speak of are very small in numbers. Most fans who support Cam can and have been critical of him in different aspects. I know what his capabilities are and his work ethic. With the right coaches who are stern with him when they need to be and an actual pro offense, I believe he can and will succeed.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:42 PM

Honestly these "fan boys" you speak of are very small in numbers. Most fans who support Cam can and have been critical of him in different aspects. I know what his capabilities are and his work ethic. With the right coaches who are stern with him when they need to be and an actual pro offense, I believe he can and will succeed.


I too believe he can and will succeed. I also think he needs a more regimented coach who will get on him about the things he needs to improve on.

My son swims competitively for a team in Charlotte. He selected the team he is on over others because the coach usher militant. He knew that a guy like that (who would get in his face when he slacked off or was not doing the little things to succeed) would be good for him. I think the same kind if coach would be good for Cam.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:46 PM

Saying Cam folds in the 4th is pure ignorance. When he left the field against the Bucs we were up by 8. When he left the field against the Bears we were up by 2. Cam performs quite well in the 4th; our D folds.


when the offense left the field against the bucs, they were a first down away from ending the game. instead they left the job undone.

cam spotted the bears 7 points in the fourth. if he hadn't thrown an interception, chicago never would have come back to win.

when the defense is put in a position to try to secure a win, that means the offense is struggling.

there's nothing like ending a game with the offense on the field doing a victory formation kneel down.

how often has that happened since the new regime?

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:48 PM

I too believe he can and will succeed. I also think he needs a more regimented coach who will get on him about the things he needs to improve on.

My son swims competitively for a team in Charlotte. He selected the team he is on over others because the coach usher militant. He knew that a guy like that (who would get in his face when he slacked off or was not doing the little things to succeed) would be good for him. I think the same kind if coach would be good for Cam.


This is why us missing out on a guy like Harbaugh was utterly foolish.

Rivera has no passion about him, nor is he a true leader of men. Coordinator at best, which is what we got.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:17 PM

I balk at the idea he's not a leader. Because I saw him take a avg.to below avg. Auburn team to a undefeated championship season.

Fact only 3 players were drafted off that team and we all know that. Neither Lee Ziemba or Fairly are leaders.

Fact his coach at Auburn is 2 years from being a national champion to unemployed.

Fact the team has fallen apart since he left. The rb was kicked out of school. None of his wr (at Auburn) will make it in the league. They went from Number 1 to unranked after he left.

Point is he took a undisciplined, poorly coach, and undertalented team to a championship. How many of the Qb drafted highly in the last 5 or 10 years can say that?



wait

So can he do it all by himself or not cuz its not getting done and all I hear are excuses. You are alluding to a guy who has accomplished everything he has accomplished in spite of his depleted surroundings, poor coaching, and lack of star power running mates. I am hearing lots of excuses pointing to these very things are exactly what is holding him back.

So its a different game?

Then your post makes no sense in this thread.

#101 MadHatter

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:13 AM

Saying Cam folds in the 4th is pure ignorance. When he left the field against the Bucs we were up by 8. When he left the field against the Bears we were up by 2. Cam performs quite well in the 4th; our D folds.


Check the stats there cowboy...they are your friend.

Cam has a 47% completion percentage and a 56 qbr rating in the last two minutes of a half. He folds when the pressure is on.....thus why he is flat unable to lead this team to a 4th quarter comeback.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:38 AM

You guys realize jay cutler is a team captain? Nobody likes cutler, especially his team. Captains are meaningless.

Most teams feel obligated to select the qb, the panthers don't, big deal.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:54 AM

You guys realize jay cutler is a team captain? Nobody likes cutler, especially his team. Captains are meaningless.

Most teams feel obligated to select the qb, the panthers don't, big deal.


Its just a way for some of our fans to slight our QB or reaffirm he's not absolute. Beason was a captain as a rookie, why isnt Keek? He's not a leader of men. See, I can do it too.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:10 AM

Would be interested to see how many starting
QB's (other than rookies) that are not. Team captain. Could not find this info....but would he interesting.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:28 AM

Smith and Gross are older. I bet kalil would have gotten it over him too


Maybe, but he didn't so we can play this game all day.


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