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Rivera vs. Gettis

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You honestly believe Gettis isn't in shape? He has seen time on the field, and is consistently regarded by players as one of the fastest guys on the team. Not in shape my foot.

...until he and Rivera got into it. It's just a bunch of bologna that people are buying.

Steve Smith is in shape in the offseason. Smith also has repeatedly said it takes a full training camp and then preseason to legitimately work your way into game shape

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Gettis was a track star. I highly highly doubt he would allow himself to get out of shape. He's probably never been out of shape in his life.

If there were some physical problem, Rivera wouldn't have stuck him in for 2 plays and yanked him out again. If a guy is really either injured or out of shape, you don't toy with them and their health. You put players in the game who are healthy, and if they're not, you keep them out.

Putting him in and yanking him out is sending a message.

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Damn, the dude's played the WR position his entire life. Yeah, he only had one NFL season and then missed a whole season but there's no way in hell he could be any less of a reliable target than Armanti Flippin Edwards. I'm not saying play him a whole game, but it would definitely do him good to get maybe a rep or two in the next few games playing against other teams where he can start to get back the feel for the game.

I'd rather him go ahead and take his lumps refamiliarizing himself with the position at the tail end of a dead end season rather than crossing my fingers and hope he works out at the beginning of a new one.

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One could use common sense and basic reasoning to make an educated guess....

Gettis, right now, isn't a better overall player than Smith, Olsen or LaFell.

One reasonably could assume he would fall somewhere near Murphy overall.

It's not common sense or reasoning at all if you're simply basing your guess on what Ron Rivera has done with the situation, and that is truly all that you have to go on.

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Gettis was a track star. I highly highly doubt he would allow himself to get out of shape. He's probably never been out of shape in his life.

If there were some physical problem, Rivera wouldn't have stuck him in for 2 plays and yanked him out again. If a guy is really either injured or out of shape, you don't toy with them and their health. You put players in the game who are healthy, and if they're not, you keep them out.

Putting him in and yanking him out is sending a message.

You are confusing being in shape with football shape.

But the bigger picture is......he is competing for a spot to be our rec 4th target. We don't have lots of plays for that role right now

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It's not common sense or reasoning at all if you're simply basing your guess on what Ron Rivera has done with the situation, and that is truly all that you have to go on.

So then you are arguing Gettis, today, is a better rec target than Smith, Olsen or LaFell? Which ones?

I am fine with Gettis taking Edwards spot on KOs and getting his WR roster spot that way. Giving him some of Murphy's rare work. Other than those situations.....he doesn't deserve much more

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Why is he still out. We need answers

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Why is he still out. We need answers

Well, how many WRs should we carry in a game?

Comes down to math. But he should get Murphy's spot at some point to show what he has

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So then you are arguing Gettis, today, is a better rec target than Smith, Olsen or LaFell? Which ones?

I am fine with Gettis taking Edwards spot on KOs and getting his WR roster spot that way. Giving him some of Murphy's rare work. Other than those situations.....he doesn't deserve much more

I've already stated what I'm arguing: that we don't know. You're the one making a positive assertion (That Gettis is at a certain talent level and would compete for a certain spot), all I'm arguing is that we don't know and we won't until he finally gets his shot.

What we do know is that Armanti Edwards has been the worst returner in the league for multiple seasons now, and has contributed almost nothing as a wide receiver. Yet he continues to get opportunities year after year over players who have shown they are more skilled then he is. So where I think you're failing is in the assumption that there must be some logical explanation for Gettis to not be playing, rather than it being simply another terrible decision.

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I've already stated what I'm arguing: that we don't know. You're the one making a positive assertion (That Gettis is at a certain talent level and would compete for a certain spot), all I'm arguing is that we don't know and we won't until he finally gets his shot.

What we do know is that Armanti Edwards has been the worst returner in the league for multiple seasons now, and has contributed almost nothing as a wide receiver. Yet he continues to get opportunities year after year over players who have shown they are more skilled then he is. So where I think you're failing is in the assumption that there must be some logical explanation for Gettis to not be playing, rather than it being simply another terrible decision.

Well, using your Gettis logic we don't know what Armanti can do as a WR either. He has made plays the very very very select times given a chance this year.

So you are saying it is a reasonable possibility our 6th round WR with only 2010 under his belt.....could be better than Smith or LaFell if put on the field Sunday? I would say that is a slim possibility if applying reason

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Well, using your Gettis logic we don't know what Armanti can do as a WR either. He has made plays the very very very select times given a chance this year.

Yes we do, he gets plenty of play time. He just can't get open. Since Denver (17 snaps) he has been seeing the field quite a bit on offense.

So you are saying it is a reasonable possibility our 6th round WR with only 2010 under his belt.....could be better than Smith or LaFell if put on the field Sunday? I would say that is a slim possibility if applying reason

Will he immediately walk onto the field better than LaFell? Likely not. But he will never be better than LaFell if he never plays. But why does he need to be better than LaFell on Sunday? Thomas Davis didn't step onto the field immediately as his old self, either. But he was given a chance, given playing time, and over time he worked his way back to form.

Where would Thomas Davis be if he was never given that chance? On the bench, next to Gettis.

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Gettis is arguably the best athlete on the team. Why not give him an opportunity to put up or shut up? If Gettis says he's ready to play, then he really should be given a legitimate shot to play.

It's not like Lafell or Murphy are tearing it up right now. And I'm a huge fan of Lafell.

On another note, I'd like to see a lot more opportunities for Barnidge too.

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