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Would Cam be better with a new coach? (NFLN Segment)


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#1 Ruff

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:01 PM

http://www.nfl.com/v...ter_nfln_videos

It's Charlie Casserly, so take it for what it's worth.

#2 Originalman

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:09 PM

That's a dumb question. poo Jim harbaugh made a scrub like Alex Smith look good. You think RG3 would look this good with Dave wandstadt (sp?) as his coach?

Folks always want to say that in the NFL coaching means so much more than any other sport. Or say some crap like football is the ultimate team sport. Then at the same time will say that it's all about the QB like the coach, system and other 21 teammates don't matter.

I can't take it with these fools in the media.

#3 Matthias

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:10 PM

I don't know what it is about the media, but for some reason, they actually think this read option offense suits Cam. They celebrate Chud like he is a genius, when the read option offense is the major reason why Cam regressed this year. Unbelievable. Why don't these talking heads just sit down, watch Cam's rookie year, compare it to this one, and tell it like it is.

John Gruden was talking all night long about how our offense was designed to help Cam out. Like he couldn't adjust to the NFL unless they ran some plays he ran in college. That is just lazy. Let's forget his rookie season, where he ran a pro set offense, and threw for over 4,000 yards. The only rookie to do so. Man, I'm about sick of all these lies.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:28 PM

Last year Newton and the offense was at its best when they were using the option and everyone loved it. Everyone loved Chud, everything was rosie. Now that they can't execute and defenses aren't fooled by it the revisionist history has begun.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:33 PM

I don't know what it is about the media, but for some reason, they actually think this read option offense suits Cam. They celebrate Chud like he is a genius, when the read option offense is the major reason why Cam regressed this year. Unbelievable. Why don't these talking heads just sit down, watch Cam's rookie year, compare it to this one, and tell it like it is.

John Gruden was talking all night long about how our offense was designed to help Cam out. Like he couldn't adjust to the NFL unless they ran some plays he ran in college. That is just lazy. Let's forget his rookie season, where he ran a pro set offense, and threw for over 4,000 yards. The only rookie to do so. Man, I'm about sick of all these lies.


With good OL play.....and a healthy option RB. It is deadly. 2011 and Washington prove it.

This year we have bad OL play, a gimpy Stewart and a RB who stinks at it.

#6 Matthias

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:40 PM

With good OL play.....and a healthy option RB. It is deadly. 2011 and Washington prove it.

This year we have bad OL play, a gimpy Stewart and a RB who stinks at it.


Washington actually runs their read options out of the pistol formation. This allows their runner to get a gust of speed going toward the o-line, much the way a regular NFL snap would have it. The way we do it, Cam and the runner are bumping into each other. This actually takes away some of the vision of our runner, and he is not able to adjust well when the ball is in his hands. (Unless the defense is completely fooled)

The read option, running it the way we run it out of the shotgun, kills an NFL offense.

#7 JawnyBlaze

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:15 AM

Casserly said absolutely nothing in that video, reaffirming what an idiot he is. The only point or opinion he came close to making was that Chud has been good for Cam. True last year, complete 180 this year.

Last year Newton and the offense was at its best when they were using the option and everyone loved it. Everyone loved Chud, everything was rosie. Now that they can't execute and defenses aren't fooled by it the revisionist history has begun.


Because last year it was used 1 or 2 times a game. When it's every play, and ain't surprising anyone, it's easy to defend. Common sense. It's less a problem with execution and more a problem with predictability.

#8 MadHatter

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:42 AM

Washington actually runs their read options out of the pistol formation. This allows their runner to get a gust of speed going toward the o-line, much the way a regular NFL snap would have it.


Very true. And, I will bet that they will have much less success with it next year.

Defensive players and coaches are too good and too fast for it to work long term. They adapt to what you are doing too quickly. This is the same dynamic that you saw when Miami ran the Wildcat. they had a ton of success.....until teams had sufficient tape on it and began preparing for it. Then, the success fell off a cliff.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:54 AM

I have little doubt that if Cam had Harbaugh coaching him this year he would be a pro bowler.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 08:14 AM

With good OL play.....and a healthy option RB. It is deadly. 2011 and Washington prove it.

This year we have bad OL play, a gimpy Stewart and a RB who stinks at it.


I'm convinced this is where most of our problems start.

#11 Spaceballs83

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 08:22 AM

In other news RG 3 thinks him and Luck can be the best 1-2 QB ever...

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 08:47 AM

cam most certainly would do better with a better coaching staff. pretty dumb question.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 09:39 AM

In other news RG 3 thinks him and Luck can be the best 1-2 QB ever...


RG3 seems to run his mouth a little too much....

Where is Thomas Davis when you need him to legally power bomb this punk on the sideline like he did in Washington.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 09:49 AM

Well that was 5 minutes I'll never get back...

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:05 PM

Speaking of RG3, I'd love to see what Cam could do in Shanny's offense... seems pefectly suited to him.


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