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#41 Floppin

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:28 AM

All those who want to win, let me ask you this question. Answer honestly! If we finish 8-8, (which we can do because if you guys haven't noticed, we have a good roster on our hands), would you cheer for the fact that means Rivera will be here for another year? The main reason we have three wins now, is because of the guys on this roster, not because of Rivera's coaching. I believe these guys can come together, and win our next four or five games, in spite of Rivera. Do yall want him back another year?


Rivera will not be retained even if we win out. Expectations were high this year, GM's were fired, coaches were fired. It's a front office fire sale and Rivera is a dead man walking. It does not matter how well the team finishes, the new GM is going to hand pick his own coach.

Winning will do nothing but help the confidence of our players and there is literally a 0.00001% chance that Rivera is retained no matter how well they play. He's already proven his incompetence. It doesn't matter how many retarded fans there would be that want him to remain because he won some games, the fans don't make front office decisions.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:29 AM

So we have a good roster but you want us to tank for lack of talent?

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:31 AM

The ONLY times tanking for a better draft pick is acceptable is for a sure fire once in a generation type player who can turn things around from day 1. Way too hard to predict in football, and the only sport it could really work in is basketball. Of course, due to the draft lottery with the NBA, it's too risky there too.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:34 AM

new GM and an incredibly underachieving team makes rivera's return highly unlikely.

if this team can't piece together more than 3 wins this season with that much talent, it's got some serious problems and it could be that those talented players aren't as good as first thought.

see how that works? teams with talent win games. this team has to look like it has talent and losing so much does very little to show that.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:36 AM

Rivera will not be retained even if we win out. Expectations were high this year, GM's were fired, coaches were fired. It's a front office fire sale and Rivera is a dead man walking. It does not matter how well the team finishes, the new GM is going to hand pick his own coach.

Winning will do nothing but help the confidence of our players and there is literally a 0.00001% chance that Rivera is retained no matter how well they play. He's already proven his incompetence. It doesn't matter how many retarded fans there would be that want him to remain because he won some games, the fans don't make front office decisions.


I strongly disagree. I think if we win 3 games, Rivera has a foot in the door to return next season. If we win all five, he is assured to be coach next season. The media and fans alike will be calling Carolina the dumbest franchise in the world if they got rid of Rivera should we win out.


It's not like Rivera has been coaching here for 10 years, and we want a fresh start. Just this past monday night, all I was hearing from Gruden is how good Chud and this staff has been with Cam. All it takes for people to change their tune about Rivera and this staff, is one measly win. Imagine what a string of wins will do. I don't want our new GM to even lose one second of sleep with Rivera. Ultimately, to hope we continue to win in this already lost season, is to hope Rivera gets another year.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:38 AM

Losing out also keeps key free agents from coming to Charlotte...Clowney is not eligible and he will be the No.1 pick.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:39 AM

I strongly disagree. I think if we win 3 games, Rivera has a foot in the door to return next season. If we win all five, he is assured to be coach next season. The media and fans alike will be calling Carolina the dumbest franchise in the world if they got rid of Rivera should we win out.


It's not like Rivera has been coaching here for 10 years, and we want a fresh start. Just this past monday night, all I was hearing from Gruden is how good Chud and this staff has been with Cam. All it takes for people to change their tune about Rivera and this staff, is one measly win. Imagine what a string of wins will do. I don't want our new GM to even lose one second of sleep with Rivera. Ultimately, to hope we continue to win in this already lost season, is to hope Rivera gets another year.



Well, you're flat out wrong. Gruden is a cock slurping media handjob artist to whomever he's commentating on that week - his on air opinion means jackshit.

The ONLY way that Rivera is maintained is if the new GM already had connections to him. Accorsi is not going to recommend a GM that is going to keep Rivera. He's a ballsack of a Head Coach, and he's not going to be retained.

You're living in a fantasy world my friend.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:39 AM

All those who want to win, let me ask you this question. Answer honestly! If we finish 8-8, (which we can do because if you guys haven't noticed, we have a good roster on our hands), would you cheer for the fact that means Rivera will be here for another year? The main reason we have three wins now, is because of the guys on this roster, not because of Rivera's coaching. I believe these guys can come together, and win our next four or five games, in spite of Rivera. Do yall want him back another year?


Honestly, I'm not worried at all about Rivera staying on.

Now then, let me ask you a question.

With us getting a new GM, what makes you think winning out means it's a "fact" that Rivera will stay?

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:39 AM

lol. all gruden does is slurp players and coaches on tv.

i wouldn't take anything he says on MNF as anything close to consensus opinion or critical thought.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:41 AM

So we have a good roster but you want us to tank for lack of talent?


The Patriots have a good group of talent, yet that doesn't stop them from trying to stockpile draft picks every year. I'm saying we have the chance to put a HOF roster out there with a trade from the first overall spot. We have good talent, but we can have more talent from this trade.


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