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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:44 PM

would you put it past this team to give away a sure win or one we had in the bag?

huge step in the right direction. just finishing what the team started.


Agreed. I was still surprised they finished and pulled this one out.

With minutes left in the Tampa game, when we still had the lead I told my wife (jokingly) that we would lose the game. Much to my surprise I was right, when in all honesty I thought we had it in the bag.

Regardless of the opposition a W is a W and hard to complain about. I just wish I was more pumped up about it than I am.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:50 PM

pro's:

cam is capable of being everything we need him to be at the position, it was one of his good days and i want to say that is two games in a row without an int.

our players haven't given up and continue to play hard and want to win.

con's

i think it was obvious our defense game planned for anther 50 pass attempts by foles and didnt adjust to the run vey well.

our offensive line is still a joke

we have too many dumb penalties

teams are reading the option too good to run it so much

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:54 PM

AE looks like hes really running kicks back hard now. i see him hitting the hole. this guy might finally be getting it....not saying hes not a bust but, i do see a slither of something in there.


Pros:

AE does look like he's running hard and hitting the holes now, but is it just me that thinks he looks like he's running in quick sand? He just doesn't look fast.

Martin played hard the other night, made some big plays and hits.

Cam looked marvelous throwing it sometimes and a few times he looked horrible... weird.

Cam running more was definitely a plus, and he is being smart and getting down instead of taking hits. I love that.


Cons:

Hardy making a clean tackle and getting a Personal Foul... that's BS.

Gross does not look good at all.

Chud is still a dumbass... line up in the I, run it well... oh well, that works, let's not do it anymore...

Timeout and time management are a huge issue for this coaching staff. Rivera is horrible at it and he also doesn't trust his players and now they KNOW it. As frustrating as it is for us... imagine how it is for them.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:02 PM

Pros:
The Kracken was out all night long.
Cam looked like the old Cam. Nice on the long ball.
Players are still playing

Cons:
Edwards loss is huge. Hopefully Stewart's ankle heals quickly.
Cam still inaccurate on those short throws.
We fired a kicker just to get another kicker that should be fired. smh

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 02:49 PM

I'll probably get hosed for this but I've been really impressed with Josh Norman all year. He has covered some quality receivers this year and for a rookie, he looks to be the real deal in the next couple of years. Really good draft choice and an excellent value.

Downsides, I love him but Smitty needs to really calm down with the scuffling and jawing after the play. I believe that it's happened in every game. I love the chip on his shoulder probably more than anyone but geez...calm down. Most corners are intimidated by his play anyway.

I continue to be impressed with our front four.

O-line was actually good this week and gave Cam time to pass. It's about time.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 02:54 PM

I'll probably get hosed for this but I've been really impressed with Josh Norman all year. He has covered some quality receivers this year and for a rookie, he looks to be the real deal in the next couple of years. Really good draft choice and an excellent value.

Downsides, I love him but Smitty needs to really calm down with the scuffling and jawing after the play. I believe that it's happened in every game. I love the chip on his shoulder probably more than anyone but geez...calm down. Most corners are intimidated by his play anyway.

I continue to be impressed with our front four.

O-line was actually good this week and gave Cam time to pass. It's about time.


Smitty does seem to be a lot more overt with his in-your-face pushing and shoving this season. I mean, he's always been like that, but he seems to be much more on the edge this year. I've sensed several times he was right on the verge of getting some dumb penalties.

I'm gonna assume he knows what he's doing though until he does actually start getting penalized for it...

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 03:04 PM

Amini's second decent game in a row. He was really destroying people, he knocked Gross' guy down several times. Josh Thomas coverage, tighter than a ten year olds butt hole.

Didn't like Gross on skates, Amini saved him all night. Also didn't like Martin, never do. Josh Norman still plays too soft.

I like AE on kickoff returns, he looks comfortable. Good balance of patience and speed hitting the hole. Way better than than the Kealoha jog or the Joe Adams hokie pokie


Who says tighter than a 10 year olds butthole?

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:42 AM

I like the fact that the defense didn't give up any points in the 4th quarter. That shows growth for me. Philly had the run game going on us, but there were only 2 big plays that led to points for them. The 60 yd. run and the 50 yd. pass interference. I kinda thought the PI was BS, but I can see why they called it. Nakamura was playing the man, Norman was playing the ball. If Nakamura had just stayed out of the way, Norman has a pretty good chance to come down with it. Instead...they have at around the 10 yd line. That doesn't happen, I doubt the Eagles would have mustered more than another FG. On the run we just had a bad play. We got beat.

Philly still had a number of key starters on the field. And may I remind you that we were without three of our best players: Kalil, Beason, and Gamble. Maybe it's not quite as bad as Philly, but we had a makeshift O-line for that game as well.

It was a much needed win and we saw SuperCam on MNF. That was pretty awesome. I think the guy is turning out to be a bit egocentric, but I'd rather have him on my team that play against him, so that's respect. This kid can completely take over a football game. I liked how Cam was able to audible more at the LOS and I think he did a fine job of picking up yards with his feet. He had a game very reminiscent of McNabb, McNair, or even Steve Young. At his best, he is that style of player. But he could still be SO much better. It's scary...

I like Norman. I think he will turn out to be our starting #2 for years to come, but I don't see him getting to the #1 level any time soon. We still need a great corner across from him to make him more effective. Munnerlyn has been good-to-great this season. Another great value draft pick. Still, we are going to have to address #1CB and a FS in the offseason. Otherwise our D is in good shape.

All in all, I hope Rivera gets fired. I'm starting to get a little worried he won't. Let's say we win 2 more games (KC and Oakland)...We'd have 5 wins and I think he'd get another ride. We have a legitimate shot at winning 4 out of the last 5 (I don't think we will, but I could see a way that that could happen). What if we did finish the season with 7 wins? How could you possibly let rivera go? Would that be worse than finishing with only 3 or 4 wins? I don't know.

All I know is that when the Panthers win, everything feels right with the world. That's why I keep coming back. They keep winning, I won't complain.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:40 AM

I like the fact that the defense didn't give up any points in the 4th quarter. That shows growth for me. Philly had the run game going on us, but there were only 2 big plays that led to points for them. The 60 yd. run and the 50 yd. pass interference. I kinda thought the PI was BS, but I can see why they called it. Nakamura was playing the man, Norman was playing the ball. If Nakamura had just stayed out of the way, Norman has a pretty good chance to come down with it. Instead...they have at around the 10 yd line. That doesn't happen, I doubt the Eagles would have mustered more than another FG. On the run we just had a bad play. We got beat.

Philly still had a number of key starters on the field. And may I remind you that we were without three of our best players: Kalil, Beason, and Gamble. Maybe it's not quite as bad as Philly, but we had a makeshift O-line for that game as well.

It was a much needed win and we saw SuperCam on MNF. That was pretty awesome. I think the guy is turning out to be a bit egocentric, but I'd rather have him on my team that play against him, so that's respect. This kid can completely take over a football game. I liked how Cam was able to audible more at the LOS and I think he did a fine job of picking up yards with his feet. He had a game very reminiscent of McNabb, McNair, or even Steve Young. At his best, he is that style of player. But he could still be SO much better. It's scary...

I like Norman. I think he will turn out to be our starting #2 for years to come, but I don't see him getting to the #1 level any time soon. We still need a great corner across from him to make him more effective. Munnerlyn has been good-to-great this season. Another great value draft pick. Still, we are going to have to address #1CB and a FS in the offseason. Otherwise our D is in good shape.

All in all, I hope Rivera gets fired. I'm starting to get a little worried he won't. Let's say we win 2 more games (KC and Oakland)...We'd have 5 wins and I think he'd get another ride. We have a legitimate shot at winning 4 out of the last 5 (I don't think we will, but I could see a way that that could happen). What if we did finish the season with 7 wins? How could you possibly let rivera go? Would that be worse than finishing with only 3 or 4 wins? I don't know.

All I know is that when the Panthers win, everything feels right with the world. That's why I keep coming back. They keep winning, I won't complain.


I agree with most of what you said. I still think the GM starts fresh with a new coaching staff. Their scheme and decision making have sabotaged this season. New GM will want his own people


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