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Rivera should stay if we go 7-9 or 8-8


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#31 Sword

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:30 AM

If we go 8-8 that would be trending updward, and Rivera would actually have be making better coaching decisions etc. for that to happen. I have a feeling if that did happen many people's opinion would be different then it is right now.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:47 AM

Out of fairness, if Rivera steers this team to an 8-8 finish, keep him. 7-9? Tough call there, but I'd be OK with keeping him, since he improved on last season's record (if only by 1 game). New GM comes in, I like the OP's idea. Tell him point blank, this team tanks early or doesn't come out as strong as we finished, if not stronger, then you're gone. I'll take an interim HC for half the season next year if we have to. Firing a guy who gets you to 8-8 when the team was the worst team in the league the year before he was hired makes no sense.

All that being said, if Rivera is fired the day after the season ends or whenever we get a new GM, I'd be happy with that as well. It really is all OK with me either way, given Rivera gets us to 8-8. We win less than 7? Fire him or I'm pissed.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:59 AM

Out of fairness, if Rivera steers this team to an 8-8 finish, keep him. 7-9? Tough call there, but I'd be OK with keeping him, since he improved on last season's record (if only by 1 game). New GM comes in, I like the OP's idea. Tell him point blank, this team tanks early or doesn't come out as strong as we finished, if not stronger, then you're gone. I'll take an interim HC for half the season next year if we have to. Firing a guy who gets you to 8-8 when the team was the worst team in the league the year before he was hired makes no sense.

All that being said, if Rivera is fired the day after the season ends or whenever we get a new GM, I'd be happy with that as well. It really is all OK with me either way, given Rivera gets us to 8-8. We win less than 7? Fire him or I'm pissed.


Pretty much sums up my thinking

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 01:28 AM

Well 3 of our remaining games will come against KC, OAK, and SD. It's not impossible to think we could pull off a win against ATL going by our last meeting, plus we'll be playing at home and they'll probably be going through the motions by that time as they're locked for the playoffs. And then there's the Saints... yeah.

It'd be just like last season, finishing against weak ass teams and one that's already playoff-bound and then getting our hopes up going into next season.

Sorry, I'm not drinking the Rivera kool-aid... however, if we do keep him they sure as hell need to get a new OC at least.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:26 AM

NO. Winning against teams like the terrible Chiefs, the terrible Raiders, the terrible Chargers and the backup Falcons (if we win these games) must not save his job. That would have nothing to do with improvement and would be a slap in the face of every panthers fan. He needs to go regardless what happens till week 17. He cost us so many games, this year and last year as well (just remember the home loss to the Aints in 2011 with his heroic timeout-call right before halftime). He is done! He is overmatched as an NFL Head Coach and I am so done with his "play not to lose" attitude. "You play to win the game!!!" - and he just does not get it. He never will! We need a winner as HC, not a pu..y!

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 06:24 AM

But think about it. Woth openings on Dallas, Philly, NY and San Diego why would a good prospect choose Carolina over any of those teams? In 2013 you wont have as many coach firings and it will be easier to get a good candidate. Why on earth would a Gruden or Cowher come to Carolina when they can have any of those big market teams?

Well reasons to not go to some o these places

Dallas - Jerry Jones is a Controle freak

NY Jets - team doesn't have any talent on offense (yes a minor issue)

San Diego - GM A.J smith is a Controle freak

Philly - it's Philly I mean come on



Real note, the only two places with real negatives is Philly because the Fans have unreasonably high expectations, and Dallas because of Jerry Jones being a hands on control freak.


San Diego if you can work with the GM is a great Job the only other team you would have to worry about would be Denver with Manning

NY Jets another case of only 1 good team in the division, problem literally no talent on the offense.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:01 AM

I wish Rivera didnt fumble the ball against ATL to ice the game on 3rd and 1. Or make Nakamura trip on his own feet so when he jumps he is 5ft 1..

I wish they called a better play against the seahawks on the roll out...why he told Cam to throw the ball wildly into the ground.

Like LaFell even said: these losses are responsibility of the players not executing what were the right calls at the right time.

I agree...Rivera does did have a learning curve and Im not so confident the availible new coach will be any improvement.

With that said the new GM and the looks Rrichardson has on the sidelines will probally be enough no matter what.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:29 AM

Like LaFell even said: these losses are responsibility of the players not executing what were the right calls at the right time.


Since LaFell is under employment by the Panthers there is just no way for him to say anything else. I have not seen many right calls at critical times this year by our coaching staff.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:44 AM

the one that doesn't have a prayer of matching Cam's rookie season & will finish with 6-7 wins. Yeah, you're that guy.


you mean he might have 1 more win than Cam did in his rookie season and with less talent around him to help him get there?

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:49 AM

The only way I'd be partly agreeable to keeping Rivera is if he and the gm found a new OC and ST coach and put some real work into revamping this entire team.


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