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#1 top dawg

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:57 AM

Perhaps it's a little too early to ask the question, but doesn't it appear like we need to draft at least one DT, CB, FS, and, most especially, a WR? in the 2013 draft? Even though we can look at the offensive play calling (double entendre intended), isn't it easy to recognize that we need a more dynamic WR to take pressure off Smitty, if not be his replacement? Don't we need a young DT to shore-up the DL and be more consistent in the running game? Don't we need a young lock-down corner and FS to solidify a defensive backfield that has had arguably measurable and marginal success? What has really changed from last year this time except for a downgrade in offense that some will blame for dwindling talent, suspect coaching, or both? Other than the rise of the Kraken, a solid FA pick-up in Landry, the return of TD, and a slam dunk first round draft of Luke, has our ability to stop the run or pass improved significantly? What do you think?

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:01 AM

Hurney had tendencies. The structure of the team reflects those. And yes, those tendencies favored certain positions while marginalizing others.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:01 AM

carolina needs true downfield threats at the wr position to take advantage of newton's arm.

as much as people love smith, he's no longer that threat and no one else on the roster fits the bill.

still need a disruptive dt, and the oline needs an overhaul.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:05 AM

I'll tell you where smith would be a threat now.

In the slot position with one or two other big threats at wideout. That's where he wants to be anyway.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:07 AM

carolina needs true downfield threats at the wr position to take advantage of newton's arm.

as much as people love smith, he's no longer that threat and no one else on the roster fits the bill.

still need a disruptive dt, and the oline needs an overhaul.


That might change if we wind up with a WCO coach.

(my preference is to stick with Coryell; way better fit for Newton)

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:09 AM

Hurney had tendencies. The structure of the team reflects those. And yes, those tendencies favored certain positions while marginalizing others.

he and fox spent way too much time together.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:11 AM

That might change if we wind up with a WCO coach.

(my preference is to stick with Coryell; way better fit for Newton)

man i hope we stay way far away from the WCO.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:16 AM

man i hope we stay way far away from the WCO.


Our old buddy Magnus from TBR likes the West Coast. I prefer the Coryell.

But hey, anything but the read option, right?

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:19 AM

One day this team we get built the right way.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:25 AM

Our old buddy Magnus from TBR likes the West Coast. I prefer the Coryell.

But hey, anything but the read option, right?


it is a love hate scheme isn't it.

I've heard a few of ex- players/coaches on tv/radio say they believe it is the best system

for Cam's skill set. We just need a better Oline to run it.

Myself .......I prefer the Coryell system

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:39 AM

Our old buddy Magnus from TBR likes the West Coast. I prefer the Coryell.

But hey, anything but the read option, right?

it just needs to be simple to learn/master, fast paced, aggressive, able to capitalize on rules protecting the passing game, and spread out defenses thin.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:40 AM

it is a love hate scheme isn't it.

I've heard a few of ex- players/coaches on tv/radio say they believe it is the best system for Cam's skill set. We just need a better Oline to run it.

Myself .......I prefer the Coryell system


I kinda wonder whether people who hope we get Andy Reid have really considered how Newton's skill set would fit in a West Coast offense.

My gut feeling is that they haven't.

it just needs to be simple to learn/master, fast paced, aggressive, able to capitalize on rules protecting the passing game, and spread out defenses thin.


I fear logging on here and seeing people discussing how many years it takes to really master the WCO.

That'd be a nightmare :(



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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:44 AM

I kinda wonder whether people who hope we get Andy Reid have really considered how Newton's skill set would fit in a West Coast offense.

My gut feeling is that they haven't.



I convinced most don't think at all.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:46 AM

I kinda wonder whether people who hope we get Andy Reid have really considered how Newton's skill set would fit in a West Coast offense.

My gut feeling is that they haven't.

other than having no faith in him to put together a good staff, the WCO thing is the biggest deterrent. major red flag.

that said, he did have the offense switched to a much more simple spread to accomadate vick so it shows he's at least willing to change.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:15 AM

other than having no faith in him to put together a good staff, the WCO thing is the biggest deterrent. major red flag.

that said, he did have the offense switched to a much more simple spread to accomadate vick so it shows he's at least willing to change.


Willing to change, yeah. But he's been a WCO coach for how many years now? I really like Andy Reid - but I REALLY don't want him coaching this team.


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