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We are improving. Rivera needs a 3rd year to get it right.

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Yesterday I would have agreed, a loss to the Cheifs is the point of no return
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Smell ya Ron

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If there was any doubt, this loss seals it.

Can't wait for a new GM/HC combo. Hopefully we make a smart hire (DAVID SHAW PLS)
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He's been gone to me since mid-Oct.

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[quote name='UNCrules2187' timestamp='1354485100' post='2027436']
If there was any doubt, this loss seals it.

Can't wait for a new GM/HC combo. Hopefully we make a smart hire (DAVID SHAW PLS)
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I agree, this one sealed his fate.

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He's gone goodbye get the hell out of charlotte.

Take naka,clausen, with you to.
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Dumb $hit

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LOL u got me

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12 men on defense ...

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If he stays we are doomed!

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He just isn't the HC type as a lot of coaches aren't. He is a top DC though. I'd keep him here as DC. That wouldn't happen though

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He just isn't the HC type as a lot of coaches aren't. He is a top DC though. I'd keep him here as DC. That wouldn't happen though
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That wouldn't be a smart move. Players will have a different look at him as former HC, I think it would be hard getting the full respect of the players after such demotion.
His story's over here.

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Im really patient as a fan. I supported this statement until this loss.

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Can RR and McDerpsalot. Make Chud HC and OC, and play Eenie Meenie Miney Mo for the DC.

At home games, fans (Panther fans) can be DC eligible.

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Wouldnt be surprised if some idiot tried to still make this argument lol "Keep Rivera"...Ha!

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Losing to a 1-10 team isn't exactly "trending up", LOL

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If he had won out there were several talking heads (former NFL guys too) that said he might get another chance with the new GM. The only silver lining from yesterday, besides the higher draft pick, is that Ron is gone with certainty now.

About that high draft pick ---I'm frigging tired of high draft picks. I want to pick #32 someday.

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[size=4][color=#222222][font='Arial', 'sans-serif']I never agreed until yesterday that RR needs to go. How in the hell do you call for a punt in the 4th QTR when your down by 6 points and there is less than 4 Minutes left and you have the ball on your own 35-37 yard line and its 4[sup]th[/sup] and 4 to go. Not to mention your defense has not stopped them at all. Makes perfect sense. [/font][/color][/size][color=#222222][font='Arial', 'sans-serif'][size=1][/size][/font][/color]
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[size=4][color=#222222][font='Arial', 'sans-serif']He's to conservative to be a HC in the NFL. No other HC would have made that call.[/font][/color][/size]
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If he is not fired JR is just telling me he doesn't care about his team. Lets be real our team got embarrassed yesterday, 27 points to the chiefs!! How can JR watch this, I know I care about the team more than him and its a shame.

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We could see a very similar situation like in San Diego with turner. Lame duck coach given way too many chances and failing to maximize potential.

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[quote name='Pablo Honey' timestamp='1354545680' post='2029019']
We could see a very similar situation like in San Diego with turner. Lame duck coach given way too many chances and failing to maximize potential.
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I don't think so.... see Hurney and Murphy have been fired this season.

Change is a comin'....again....yes!!!!

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So realistically we can beat the raiders giving us a 4-12 record and this is improvement from last year's 6-10 record how?

JR doesn't watch the Panthers for the game, he watches for his Cam commericals.

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Nope he is gone. We have the talent but coaching and bad playcalling have lost us the majority of games this year.

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