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colin cowherd trashing cam on twitter

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Not sure if anyone has brought it up, but I overheard Trent Dilfer vomiting at the mouth on Sportscenter about how Luck has no flaws and could be the greatest quarterback we have ever seen. LOLLOLOLOLOOL

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your telling me that, Luck's dad coaching him since he was young to be an NFL QB didn't effect his current ability at QB?

His a ability to do pre-reads, or his QB mechanics? you don;t think they spent time in film rooms together sharing knowledge and a love for a sport?

not every NFL players has that, that doesn't mean they are not great I am just saying its helped prepare Luck for the NFL. If you can't agree with that, then I will bow out because as a father I know I teach my kids everything I know.

The game was wildly different when Oliver Luck played. . .and he was shitty at it. I'm sure it gave Luck a hand up, but that's like getting a free pass to level 4 on a 200 level course.

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Is that the only game Luck has played all season? Has Luck's QBR been crap all season.

Please don't think I am bashing Cam and get defensive, its just my opinion of when I have watched Luck he has been remarkable for a rookie, but I also know its a product of his upraising. Everyone has bad games, check Ryan at Arizona and Brees at Altanta.

Also I don;t blame Cam for the Panther's seasons failure, sure he was a bit off this year but Cam is young and will only get better.

Luck has not been that good this year. He has been decent for a rookie, but he hasn't been anything extraordinary. With one big exception which I will get to in a minute.

When I compare his stats with Cam's stats from last year (I realize you are not bashing Cam). Cam had a much better completion %, they are virtually tied with INT% but Luck also has 8 lost fumbles this season and Cam only lost 2 last season, Cam had a higher YPC and YPA, Cam had a much higher QB rating, Cam had a much higher TD%, Luck averages more yards per game, but also averages nearly ten more attempts per game than Cam at @42 passing attempts per game.

But the one thing Luck has that Cam is struggling with is game winning drives. Luck already has 5. Cam had zero last year. That says a lot about Luck's poise.

And it is great that INDY is 8-4. But here is a list of their wins and the records of the teams they beat:

Minnesota 6-6

Green Bay 8-4

Cleveland 4-8

Tennessee 4-8

Miami 5-7

Jacksonville 2-10

Buffalo 5-7

Detroit 4-8

Winning against Green Bay was really, really, great and they should get a lot of credit for that, but it should also be noted that it was at home after a BYE week. That is their only quality win.

So, give Luck credit where it is due, he has been great in crunch time, but keep it in perspective. It hasn't been anything extraordinary. And nothing like what Cam did last year, even if you don't count the 700 yards rushing and 14 rushing TDs Cam had.

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Luck has not been that good this year. He has been decent for a rookie, but he hasn't been anything extraordinary. With one big exception which I will get to in a minute.

When I compare his stats with Cam's stats from last year (I realize you are not bashing Cam). Cam had a much better completion %, they are virtually tied with INT% but Luck also has 8 lost fumbles this season and Cam only lost 2 last season, Cam had a higher YPC and YPA, Cam had a much higher QB rating, Cam had a much higher TD%, Luck averages more yards per game, but also averages nearly ten more attempts per game than Cam at @42 passing attempts per game.

But the one thing Luck has that Cam is struggling with is game winning drives. Luck already has 5. Cam had zero last year. That says a lot about Luck's poise.

And it is great that INDY is 8-4. But here is a list of their wins and the records of the teams they beat:

Minnesota 6-6

Green Bay 8-4

Cleveland 4-8

Tennessee 4-8

Miami 5-7

Jacksonville 2-10

Buffalo 5-7

Detroit 4-8

Winning against Green Bay was really, really, great and they should get a lot of credit for that, but it should also be noted that it was at home after a BYE week. That is their only quality win.

So, give Luck credit where it is due, he has been great in crunch time, but keep it in perspective. It hasn't been anything extraordinary. And nothing like what Cam did last year, even if you don't count the 700 yards rushing and 14 rushing TDs Cam had.

Cam had one game-winning drive last year (Jacksonville.)

Also, on that topic, why do we never bring up all the last minute or second losses after the offense scored the go-ahead points? Like Atlanta this year, or the first Saints game last year, or the Tampa Bay game this year? The defense keeps killing Cam's clutch cred.

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Not saying that Luck is bad...but Indy has played a crap schedule...they have not even played the Texans yet...and probably wont have to becaue the Texans are primed to have the number one seed wrapped up.

The Colts will get exposed against NE or Texans or Ravens if they get to the playoffs. It is amazing how Indy gets the number one pick and gets a crap schedule and when we get the number one pick we get the hardest schedule last year.

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Cam had one game-winning drive last year (Jacksonville.)

Also, on that topic, why do we never bring up all the last minute or second losses after the offense scored the go-ahead points? Like Atlanta this year, or the first Saints game last year, or the Tampa Bay game this year? The defense keeps killing Cam's clutch cred.

Or the Minny drive last season that Mare missed the Kick...etc. etc. etc. but don't worry. Cam can't close because he can block and kick field goals for himself or play defense.

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Cam had one game-winning drive last year (Jacksonville.)

Also, on that topic, why do we never bring up all the last minute or second losses after the offense scored the go-ahead points? Like Atlanta this year, or the first Saints game last year, or the Tampa Bay game this year? The defense keeps killing Cam's clutch cred.

Don't forget the Chicago game this year. After he had the pick six that Smitty fell down on, the next drive we drove down and took the lead with a field goal. Cam very easily could have several more "4th quarter comebacks" and "game winning drives" than he does but the defense hasn't held up their end of the bargain.

But Cam has also had several instances where we had the ball with a chance to regain the lead late in a game and has failed. I for one am not worried at this point. I think as he gains more experience and once his mind catches up to his ability, those things will take care of themselves. I'm not saying he isn't smart, just that he is still learning and eventually things that he is having to process mentally right now will eventually become second nature. Things Andrew Luck may have had a head start on because of his college offense. When THAT happens..... we really will have something special.

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BTW, RG3 has exactly as many 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives as Cam had last year. 1.

The truth is, in my humble opinion, Russell Wilson has been the best rookie QB by far and should win ROY. But he doesn't get the attention RG3 and Luck get.

Wilson has 7 wins including wins against Green Bay, New England, and Chicago.

Wilson also 3 fourth quarter come backs, and 3 game winning drives.

Their schedule has been pretty tough and Seattle is 7-5

Oh yeah, I am also a Tar Heel fan, so you know it is legit ;)

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We may be witnessing the beginnings of another great era of QB's.

Cam, Luck and RG3 may well become the current versions of Elway, Marino and Montana. It should be a lot of fun to watch.

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I'm going to say something that no one wants to hear...Cowherd is right. I talked about this with several people yesterday and Cam hasn't shown the ability to win games late when given a chance. It's easy for us to sit here and make excuses about the run defense, lafell's drop, or coaching, but Cam had a chance, down by 6 to lead a game winning drive. He failed. Which he has done over and over this year. Then I flip the switch and Luck does exactly what Cam couldn't...moved the ball, made perfect throws, kept his composure, and most importantly, he won. Can't argue that. Sorry.

Does that mean Cam isn't as good a QB? No. But it's something he has to improve on to take that next step to greatness.

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