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Props to him. Feels like every time he ran the ball in a normal running formation, he gained well over 5 yards. 12 carries for 67 yards for a 5.6 yard per carry average. I've said it to all of you on here who think he's washed up and I'll say it again...it's the damn coaching.
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Logged in just for this, I agree completely. Losing so many games with 4th quarter leads, play calling, and clock management are the biggest things I've seen that prove he's not the guy we need.
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our running game has usually been really good, yet we always seem to abandon it after the first couple of drives. I can't imagine what is going through Chud's head. Maybe nothing, which would explain a few things.

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He and Tolbert both played well today.
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People like to talk about how Stew fits our offense better and DWill is old and blah, blah, blah.

The problem is Chud has no patience or commitment for the running game. Doesn't matter who is in there. If we don't hit home runs immediately, Chud quits running. Then in the 3rd or 4th quarter (in the games we have the lead), he expects our run game to be able to dominate at will. It doesn't work like that.

This is also one of the reasons our o-line looks so pathetic. Show some patience and commitment to the run and I'll bet they look at least marginally better.
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/sigh
The could have beens for this year. Maybe we will get a staff that realizes what we have, cuts what we don't need, and actually addresses our weaknesses.

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[quote name='Marguide' timestamp='1354498199' post='2028160']
People like to talk about how Stew fits our offense better and DWill is old and blah, blah, blah.

The problem is Chud has no patience or commitment for the running game. Doesn't matter who is in there. If we don't hit home runs immediately, Chud quits running. Then in the 3rd or 4th quarter (in the games we have the lead), he expects our run game to be able to dominate at will. It doesn't work like that.

This is also one of the reasons our o-line looks so pathetic. Show some patience and commitment to the run and I'll bet they look at least marginally better.
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Pretty much sums up the season right there.

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lets see if he can do anything next week against a better team

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[quote name='panthers04100' timestamp='1354498483' post='2028187']
lets see if he can do anything next week against a better team
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Hey Debbie downer, enjoy his performance this week. He can excel if he gets A CHANCE in a good friggen power formation.

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Sucks that his talent has been wasted these past two years.

Williams has the potential to be a top 10 back in this league, he just doesn't fit this piss poor offensive philosophy.

Paying both Stewart and Williams was incredibly stupid. In this offense it has been a huge hinderance, because neither guy is in the game long enough to get into a rythmn and get rolling.
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he was brilliant today lets give him a contract extension.

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[quote name='Crim' timestamp='1354498703' post='2028201']
he was brilliant today lets give him a contract extension.
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Yeah and let's give Rivera a 3rd season!

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Of course he looked great out there, he got most of the carries. :derp:

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I think anybody can run against the Chiefs

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[quote name='Brooklyn Bully' timestamp='1354498766' post='2028205']
Of course he looked great out there, he got most of the carries. :derp:
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He had a 5.6 average. And 12 carries is 8 or 9 short of what he should be getting. Specially considering he had all of our rbs carries

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[quote name='Lilsmitty09' timestamp='1354498620' post='2028195']


Hey Debbie downer, enjoy his performance this week. He can excel if he gets A CHANCE in a good friggen power formation.
[/quote]the guy had 67 yards and we lost what's there to enjoy?

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[quote name='Daddy Uncle' timestamp='1354498857' post='2028207']
I think anybody can run against the Chiefs
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What a lot of you guys don't understand is that the chiefs defense has been decent this year. Thier offense has been atrocious. They have been pitiful all year.

The chief defense all but handled Manning last week and have a ton of talent on that side of the ball.

What our offense did today should be applauded, they played really well to have only gotten the ball for such little time. The running game was good, the blocking was good, Cam was good. The problem lies on the defensive side of the ball this week.
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[quote name='panthers04100' timestamp='1354499016' post='2028217']
the guy had 67 yards and we lost what's there to enjoy?
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The 5 yard carry average? We've averaged like 2 or 3 yards all year. Yeah, we lost. But we gained some knowledge knowing that d will still has it

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I think he is aging.....and clearly doesn't fit our system.

With a new coach/scheme.....who wants to spend big bucks on a 30 yr old RB? Only a win now team should entertain such with weak other options

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[quote name='Lilsmitty09' timestamp='1354499304' post='2028235']


The 5 yard carry average? We've averaged like 2 or 3 yards all year. Yeah, we lost. But we gained some knowledge knowing that d will still has it
[/quote]id need more proof then one game with 67 yards to show he's still got it. Again lets see what he does next week.

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[quote name='panthers04100' timestamp='1354499446' post='2028240']
id need more proof then one game with 67 yards to show he's still got it. Again lets see what he does next week.
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Okay coach.

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[quote name='Lilsmitty09' timestamp='1354499537' post='2028244']


Okay coach.
[/quote]so by your logic Brady Quinn must be pretty good cause he had a good game today

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[quote name='panthers04100' timestamp='1354499621' post='2028249']
so by your logic Brady Quinn must be pretty good cause he had a good game today
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The difference is Quinn has historically sucked. Yes he played good today, however this is his first and only good game. Deangelo was a star in 08,09 and 10 before he got injured. You can have your opinions, but in reality, deangelo isn't as bad as you think.

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[quote name='CRA' timestamp='1354499438' post='2028238']
I think he is aging.....and clearly doesn't fit our system.

With a new coach/scheme.....who wants to spend big bucks on a 30 yr old RB? Only a win now team should entertain such with weak other options
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Our system sucks.

I agree that we spend to much money on running backs, especially considering how little we use them.

But I do not believe that the lack of production is the fault of our running backs. If Deangelo gets with a team that properly utilizes him, he will likely have a good year next year.

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[quote name='Lilsmitty09' timestamp='1354499795' post='2028260']


The difference is Quinn has historically sucked. Yes he played good today, however this is his first and only good game. Deangelo was a star in 08,09 and 10 before he got injured. You can have your opinions, but in reality, deangelo isn't as bad as you think.
[/quote]i like deangelo he's just at the age where running backs careers usually start to end. He's gonna be 30 next season.

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