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#25 Inimicus

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:45 AM

The aftermath of a situation that could have been prevented by reasonable gun control laws is not appropriate?

why not?

the only reason I can imagine is that it makes the "if the mother/baby/grandmother had a gun this wouldn't have happened" crowd look bad.


I'm not taking issue with what he said, simply when he said it.

IF he just had to say something last night, then the gravity of the situation would have dictated that it be the first thing he said during the broadcast. By waiting until halftime he sent the message that it wasn't as important as any of the other minutia that he spoke on in the pregame.

Beyond that its bad form in my opinion to mix politics and sporting events. Bob has got a number of venues where this would have been a wholly appropriate topic and one that I would have been grateful to read/hear his opinion on the matter. This just isn't it.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:48 AM

People that are capable of murder and commit murder for whatever reason are going to do it regardless of the tool they use. They always have and always will.


Dunno how this is quantifiable. We don't hear about the people who didn't kill someone because it wasn't as easy as shooting. It takes a certain sicko to use a knife or other hand weapon, whereas a gun is easy: point and pull.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:49 AM

People that are capable of murder and commit murder for whatever reason are going to do it regardless of the tool they use. They always have and always will.



Nope.

Look at the countries we share space with

http://www.nationmas...per-100-000-pop

If we compared England to the United States they are almost equal to us (per capita) when it comes to violent crimes when guns are excluded.

When you factor in gun violence our numbers skyrocket.

So yes violent crimes will always happen. The greatest country in the world shouldnt have a gun murder rate only slightly worse than Zimbabwe and Mexico

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:51 AM

I only caught the tail end of it, but do you think just maybe it was planned into the program by the producers and writers of the show? I have a hard time believing Costas just takes such liberties live in primetime and in front of millions

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:54 AM

It takes a lot less conviction to pull a trigger and shoot someone in the head than taking a bat or a knife and getting dirty.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:55 AM

I'm having a great day.
Gonna ignore this topic.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:55 AM

I'm not taking issue with what he said, simply when he said it.

IF he just had to say something last night, then the gravity of the situation would have dictated that it be the first thing he said during the broadcast. By waiting until halftime he sent the message that it wasn't as important as any of the other minutia that he spoke on in the pregame.

Beyond that its bad form in my opinion to mix politics and sporting events. Bob has got a number of venues where this would have been a wholly appropriate topic and one that I would have been grateful to read/hear his opinion on the matter. This just isn't it.


i sat through 20 minutes of jingoism and flag waving at the jets/cardinals game...

does that apply as well?

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:58 AM

It takes a lot less conviction to pull a trigger and shoot someone in the head than taking a bat or a knife and getting dirty.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:58 AM

I am all for stricter gun control laws (including a renewal of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban which expired in 2004), but I'm not really sure that is the root of the problem. Take a look at the gun violence statistics in Norway (a country where the percentage of people who own guns is comparable to the percentage of gun owners here)....their gun violence/crimes are much, much lower percentage wise than ours. With the exception of that White Supremacist asshole from a while back, violent gun crime is virtually unheard of over there. The same is true for Switzerland....they rank 4 on the list (US is 1st), but violent crime over there is very rare.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:04 AM

It takes a lot less conviction to pull a trigger and shoot someone in the head than taking a bat or a knife and getting dirty.

Please Zod tell us about your days of getting in rumbles with Ponyboy, Sodapop and the rest of the outsiders.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:11 AM

I am all for stricter gun control laws (including a renewal of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban which expired in 2004), but I'm not really sure that is the root of the problem. Take a look at the gun violence statistics in Norway (a country where the percentage of people who own guns is comparable to the percentage of gun owners here)....their gun violence/crimes are much, much lower percentage wise than ours. With the exception of that White Supremacist asshole from a while back, violent gun crime is virtually unheard of over there. The same is true for Switzerland....they rank 4 on the list (US is 1st), but violent crime over there is very rare.


It's cultural.

I always bring this up...when PJ O'Rourke visited Sweden to learn about their economy for one of his books, his guide boasted to him that the unemployment rate in Sweden was staggeringly low. PJ, being the quick wit he is, responded that "among Swedes" the unemployment rate in the US is staggeringly low as well.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:19 AM

if guns don't make it easier to kill then we might as well ban them because they're f*cking useless.