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He wasn't allowed to shop for the groceries yet he was expected to cook a masterpiece. I look at John Fox and his success and I can now really see where our REAL failure is

yeah, the real failure was not handcuffing fox and letting him micromanage both sides of the ball. denver protects him from himself and he's doing great over there.

who do you think was overly reliant on jake delhomme and insisted on starting aging veterans year after year?

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He wasn't allowed to shop for the groceries yet he was expected to cook a masterpiece. I look at John Fox and his success and I can now really see where our REAL failure is

People on those chef competition shows do it all the time!

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He wasn't allowed to shop for the groceries yet he was expected to cook a masterpiece. I look at John Fox and his success and I can now really see where our REAL failure is

Fox had success early here, too. Don't worry. It'll pass as soon as Manning retires.

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yeah, the real failure was not handcuffing fox and letting him micromanage both sides of the ball. denver protects him from himself and he's doing great over there.

who do you think was overly reliant on jake delhomme and insisted on starting aging veterans year after year?

John Fox with a good FO is good enough to have two winning seasons in a row with more to come. Thats all I want. People can't blame Rivera just like you can't blame Cam Newton. Our front office and GM have made terrible decisions for years.

We now have NO interior D or O line to be spoken of they're just guys. Cheap is as cheap does. They spend crazy insane money on things we don't need and fail to address the things we do need. My point is: It was never John Fox.

"Better ingredients better pizza"- Papa John

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Fox had success early here, too. Don't worry. It'll pass as soon as Manning retires.

Fox had The Golden Calf of Bristol looking good sooooo...

Maybe he was a good coach

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He wasn't allowed to shop for the groceries yet he was expected to cook a masterpiece. I look at John Fox and his success and I can now really see where our REAL failure is

But Wait the folks right here said it was Foxy's fault. He was too boring, couldn't coach etc...

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Fox had The Golden Calf of Bristol looking good sooooo...

Maybe he was a good coach

No he didn't. Denver's offense was horrific. He had one game where he went like 4/14.

Shame Cam doesn't have a defense that can win games when he goes 4/14 passing.

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I'm not really gonna get excited for a coach who can have two winning seasons in a row. I'm interested in someone who can win championships. Fox is good for 8-8 +/- 2 every year. That's it. He's not going to build a dynasty that will compete for the championship several years in a row. He'll give you a consistently mediocre product. Zzzzzzzzzz.

And don't give me any BS about how you'd love to be mediocre right now. That's baloney. We took a shot on a coach, who doesn't appear to have it. You bag him and move on. Wanting to go back to Fox now is a puss move. Finding a great coach is not an easy/obvious process. If it was, everyone would have one. I'm frustrated watching our team look under prepared and unmotivated, too, but I sure as hell don't want to go back to a safe 8-8 every year.

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This is a process alright...

Yeah, like a 'pulling teeth with tweezers process'.

It's gonna take a long time

It's bound to get painful

And chances are you don't get the end result, just a lot of damage done

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