Your posts and logic just come off to me as "hippie like". I hear this poo all the time man. I live 3 miles outside of the Asheville city limits. Asheville is the east coast version of San Fran. Enormously liberal. I also work all over WNC in rural areas and I hear both sides of the issue. I side with the "redneck, I love my country and constitutional rights" side because that how I have been brought up. Don't like it ignore me.
lol so if it doesn't side with your admittedly redneck perspective on things like the constitution it's "hippie like" by default?
we can't even have a conversation about this because you refuse to discuss anything in terms that weren't handed down to you by good ol' boys and your great grand pappy and all them good ol warm-blooded 'murricans that love their country.
sorry YML but until you break out of that information base (or lack thereof) and start discussing these sorts of issues in terms other that "liberal hippies" and "WELL I LOVE THE CONSTITUTION" there will never be any common ground or conclusion reached