fwiw i grew up in an arch-conservative family with grand pappys and good ol' boys instilling me old tyme values and other stuff that those darned LIEberals are trying to take away and give to the homeless jewish black gays instead, i joined the military, went to college, was involved heavily in college republicans, now-embarassing blog posts expounding on my incredibly conservative "appalachian redneck skoal justin boots" ideology, etc. so it's not like i'm just some up-north silk wearin' high-falutin' liberal down here with the gub'ment trying to take over everything america used to be. i was exactly like you YML, down to a tee.
then i woke the fug up.
So bottom line is we agree to disagree. But you have been awakened? I seriously don't understand your "all high and mighty better than you " approach. Let me let you in on something. Your arch conservative family members aren't anything compared to my family's.
I bet you call your papaw "grandpaw"
I bet you call taters potatoes.
Just saying man. I'm making assumptions about your heritage and culture...just like you and Panthro assume Im racist. Man half my family is black. Need I post pics of us?