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#16 GAme

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 01:36 PM

Just say no. Unless it's weed of course

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:24 PM

What about cigarettes/tobacco? No one associates smoking as some sort of coping mechanism, just a bad habit.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:31 PM

What about cigarettes/tobacco? No one associates smoking as some sort of coping mechanism, just a bad habit.



Every smoker I ever knew openly admits that they are a coping mechanism.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:35 PM

What about cigarettes/tobacco? No one associates smoking as some sort of coping mechanism, just a bad habit.


what?

the emotional relationship between a long-time tobacco user and his/her tobacco is one of the longest, strongest and most consistent relationships most people have...

"coping mechanism" doesn't even begin to describe it fully. "Bad habit" is straight denial.


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:39 PM

It'a addition to the substance itself, not trying to blanket some kind of 'inner demon'.

If anyone uses the term 'coping mechanism' for smoking they're misusing the term.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:45 PM

"inner demon" is overly dramatic and shows a lack of experience with the reality of the addiction imo.


cigs are my friend. and I f*cking hate it... and love it.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:49 PM

no, "inner demon" is a way for people to transfer responsibility from those that are actually responsible, themselves or loved ones

its not their fault they're addicted, its their inner demons

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:50 PM

addicts don't say "inner demons." people who talk about others' addictions use stupid hyperbole like that.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:53 PM

some addicts use the term inner demons, but its usually the ones trying to play the victim

"its not my fault i'm addicted, addictive tendencies run in my family" is the exact same nonsense to me

but even when used by a non-addict to describe an addict, the purpose is to transfer responsibility from the addict to an abstract concept (my kid is a good kid syndrome, etc)

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:02 PM

i'm shocked that people attempt to transfer responsbility for their own problems... Good thing nobody on this board would ever do such a weak-willed thing... We really should all get together and teach the rest of the world how to live.

i don't understand your point... other than your usual play at feeling smug and superior.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:07 PM

Semantics aside, inner demons or coping mechanisms are the result of using a drug to escape from something in their lives. Whether they are deflecting blame or not it's irrelevant. Smokers aren't using tobacco to release themselves from those burdens. It's simply a bad habit, however severe you want to make it.

I've been smoking for 17 years now. I come up with excuses for why I keep smoking but it's not easing any kind of a pain for me, nor has it ever.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:09 PM

doesn't relieve stress? doesn't relax you?

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:11 PM

i'm shocked that people attempt to transfer responsbility for their own problems... Good thing nobody on this board would ever do such a weak-willed thing... We really should all get together and teach the rest of the world how to live.

i don't understand your point... other than your usual play at feeling smug and superior.


We have not passed that subtle line between childhood and adulthood until... we have stopped saying "It got lost," and say "I lost it."

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As far as me being smug and superior...that's just your interpretation. I certainly don't feel that way.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:13 PM

Semantics aside, inner demons or coping mechanisms are the result of using a drug to escape from something in their lives. Whether they are deflecting blame or not it's irrelevant. Smokers aren't using tobacco to release themselves from those burdens. It's simply a bad habit, however severe you want to make it.

I've been smoking for 17 years now. I come up with excuses for why I keep smoking but it's not easing any kind of a pain for me, nor has it ever.


So you're saying that because it doesn't get you high, the addiction and side effects don't count?

Seems to me using that logic cigarettes should be illegal long before drugs are.

Hey, as long as it doesn't make you feel good, go kill yourself slowly.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:14 PM

We have not passed that subtle line between childhood and adulthood until... we have stopped saying "It got lost," and say "I lost it."

Sydney J Harris


isn't that obvious?


no argument here.


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