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How to Rebuild the Panther

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Draft wins

  1. Peppers 1rd
  2. Gross 1rd
  3. Gamble 1rd
  4. T. Davis 1rd
  5. D. Will 1rd
  6. J. Beason 1rd
  7. J. Stewart 1rd
  8. C. Newton 1rd
  9. L. Kuechly 1rd
  10. Godfrey 3 rd
  11. C Johnson 3 rd
  12. J. Anderson 3 rd
  13. T Wharton 2rd
  14. Ryan Kalil 2rd
  15. Captain Munnerlyn 2009 (I added him because of a 7th rd that is a good Nickle but not so much a #2 or #1 CB)

Draft Loses

  1. Bruce Nelson 2003 2rd
  2. Mike Siadman 2003 2rd
  3. Keary Colbert 2004 2rd
  4. Eric Shelton 2005 2rd
  5. Atiyyah Ellison DT 2005 3 rd
  6. Richard Marshall 2006 2rd (Some may not agree)
  7. Rashad Butler 2006 3 rd
  8. Dwayne Jarrett 2007 2rd
  9. Jeff Otah 2008 1rd (Gave up 1st round pick in 2009 and I think a 3rd as well)
  10. Everette Brown 2 rd (Was our 1st round pick if we didn’t trade it away)
  11. C Irvin 3 rd 2009
  12. S Martin 2 rd 2009 (Since most seem to be down on him. I personnel like his play and has gotten better in the tackling area)
  13. J Clausen 2rd (Traded our 1st rd pick away for E Brown in 2009) Major loss
  14. A. Edwards 3 rd 2010 ( sorry we traded away another pick to get back into the 3 rd round to get him. Loss
  15. Eric Norwood 2010 4rd ( added him since this is considered our 3 rd pick)
  16. T McClain 3 rd 2011
  17. Sione F 3 rd 2011

Draft still open for debate if a bust or not.

  1. Brandon LaFell 2010 3 rd
  2. Frank Alexander 2012 4rd (looks promising)
  3. Joe Adams 2012 4rd (looks promising)
  4. Josh Norman 2012 5 rd
  5. Amini Silatolu 2012 2rd
  6. Kealoha Pilares 2011 5rd
  7. David Gettis 6rd 2010
  8. Greg Hardy 6rd 2010 ( Showing progress and Promise)

All in all, He was not that bad. However i think the fans remeber the really stupid choices the past few season with trading away future 1st round picks for players that where picked to high and the major busts at high WR picks. The one thing to say about him is he has found some diamonds in the rough as well and thats always a good thing.

But is it him or was it the scouting staff that found these players. Some like Gross, Peppers, Dvis, D.Will, Stewart where just no brainers. I, myself never want Otah I want us to pick up Ryan Clady. I was looking at the future LT to replace Gross and where is Clady now? Starting LT for Denver.

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Ryan Clady went before our pick. If we would have traded up for him, we would not have JStew. Otah was looking like a great pick before injuries and weight issues.

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its okay to disagree with me just, prove it with facts. show me a team with a better draft class the past 5yrs than the panthers. we just dont have a coach that can make the team gel together... you can say the same thing about SF 2 years ago

http://www.nfl.com/d...ype=roundbyteam

That only strengthens the notion that the team has sucked for the most part in that time frame.

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Otah was a top 5 RT in the leauge B4 the weight Issues an injuries, same with Jenkins DT. unlike Jenkins , OTAH lacked the heart and work ethics. you can determin or evaluate that during the draft

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That only strengthens the notion that the team has sucked for the most part in that time frame.

you can go 10yrs if you wan to.... Hurney main issue was that he showed too much loyalty to his players when it comes to contract time..

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its okay to disagree with me just, prove it with facts. show me a team with a better draft class the past 5yrs than the panthers. we just dont have a coach that can make the team gel together... you can say the same thing about SF 2 years ago

http://www.nfl.com/d...ype=roundbyteam

I agree that we have had some good draft years. I also however feel that we gave away to much to draft some very questionable players that were in the short/long run busts.

Right now we have great talent on the team.. its a coaching issue all around thats affecting the team. Theres not enough aggression on this team and that stems from coaching.

As I stated in another post. Its 4-4 your on your 35-37 yd line and less than 4 minutes left in a game that you r defense has not stopped your opponents offense. WHAT DO you do?

Well RR punted the damn ball and blew any chance of us coming back to win. Thats a none aggresive call. I dont think he wants to stay the HC if he makes a call like that.

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I agree that we have had some good draft years. I also however feel that we gave away to much to draft some very questionable players that were in the short/long run busts.

Right now we have great talent on the team.. its a coaching issue all around thats affecting the team. Theres not enough aggression on this team and that stems from coaching.

As I stated in another post. Its 4-4 your on your 35-37 yd line and less than 4 minutes left in a game that you r defense has not stopped your opponents offense. WHAT DO you do?

Well RR punted the damn ball and blew any chance of us coming back to win. Thats a none aggresive call. I dont think he wants to stay the HC if he makes a call like that.

That’s the point I was making, our coaches looks like they are not capable of game planning and managing. Hurney has assembled a team to make and go deep in the playoffs, the only time the coach adjust his game plan is to not to lose game plan, which we know how it turns out... if team is constantly losing close games then it has to be the coach not players... even most of players have complained about playing too soft or how the Bears ran the same play to win

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I don't think there is much to debate right now. It's pretty unanimous from fans that the coaches need to go.

Hurney had his supporters here but now that he's gone what is the relevance in talking about him?

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