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#46 Bwood

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:00 AM

One game? Based on the Chi game Cam sucks and should be cut as well.


That wasn't his only bad game. That's just the most recent example and that's SAD that I can use our most recent game against a really shitty team.

Do you really need me to sit here and list every bad game for you? The dude is done being an elite tackle, and we need to do what winning franchises do and cut ties if it means freeing up money and adding a younger player for the future.

I love me some gross but he is donezo.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:42 AM

Gross isn't as bad as some are saying, but he's just not bringing what his paycheck should.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:21 AM

That wasn't his only bad game. That's just the most recent example and that's SAD that I can use our most recent game against a really shitty team.

Do you really need me to sit here and list every bad game for you? The dude is done being an elite tackle, and we need to do what winning franchises do and cut ties if it means freeing up money and adding a younger player for the future.

I love me some gross but he is donezo.


You blaim others for not watching game tape or checking stats and yet you claim he sucked in a game in which profootball states:

"particularly LT Jordan Gross, who was excellent at the point of attack."

As I havn´t watched the rerun I think I good with thier opinion for now.

Sure, Gross might be a cap casualty. But make no mistake, his replacmant will we not be as good as he is (unless we waste a 1st needed elsewhere or get really lucky).

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:17 AM

Gross was never a top 5 LT...maybe in 2008-09..but he has been declining ever since. The biggest reasons to cut him is for cap relief and the future

Also, OP posts the worst, "first thought that comes to mind", threads.

#50 Bwood

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:05 AM

You blaim others for not watching game tape or checking stats and yet you claim he sucked in a game in which profootball states:

"particularly LT Jordan Gross, who was excellent at the point of attack."

As I havn´t watched the rerun I think I good with thier opinion for now.

Sure, Gross might be a cap casualty. But make no mistake, his replacmant will we not be as good as he is (unless we waste a 1st needed elsewhere or get really lucky).


Yes we will easily find someone better than him haha, his name is Luke Joeckel.

Welcome to the NFL, this is how things work. You'll understand some day.

#51 Icege

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:19 AM

Did you watch the Kansas City game hahaha??

That game is living proof.


I did.

I watched the game as it happened, the condensed version of the game, as well as the coach's film.

Jordan Gross gave up two pressures the entire game. I repeat, he was only beaten twice by Hali. I exclusively watched Gross two days ago and posted this in the other Gross thread (which you responded to). On both of those plays where Gross was beat, Cam scrambled for 7yds. The other play where Gross got beat? When LaFell dropped the potential TD.

Otherwise, I saw him knock down Hali at least 3 times. They also gashed the Chiefs more often than not when running behind Gross.

From the game I saw, Gross looked great. From the other games I've seen, Gross has looked fine. His $8+ million salary + his age has most of the chicken littles here worried from what I can tell because his play has definitely not been the reason.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:23 AM

Do you really need me to sit here and list every bad game for you?


Yes, because he played great in the game you claimed he was terrible in. I'd be glad to confirm whether or not you are correct (granted, some folks would consider giving up just one pressure an apocalyptic failure).

I might even have to put forth some extra effort and get screen caps of every play to show how clean Newton's back is thanks to Gross ;)

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:58 AM

the guy is not worth his pay, and i remember saying this 2 years ago. one of those pressures vs Hali should have been a sack but the QB threw him off and escaped the pocket. the eagles game Curry gave him an inside move and got a sack, and of course the bucs game Bowers put him on skates to get a sack.

i know hindsight is 20/20 but Cordy Glenn is looking real nice right about now, and he can play OT and G.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:40 PM

I did.

I watched the game as it happened, the condensed version of the game, as well as the coach's film.

Jordan Gross gave up two pressures the entire game. I repeat, he was only beaten twice by Hali. I exclusively watched Gross two days ago and posted this in the other Gross thread (which you responded to). On both of those plays where Gross was beat, Cam scrambled for 7yds. The other play where Gross got beat? When LaFell dropped the potential TD.

Otherwise, I saw him knock down Hali at least 3 times. They also gashed the Chiefs more often than not when running behind Gross.

From the game I saw, Gross looked great. From the other games I've seen, Gross has looked fine. His $8+ million salary + his age has most of the chicken littles here worried from what I can tell because his play has definitely not been the reason.


Dude it's okay, you can hang your Jordan Gross jersey up and it will be a cool way to remember him.

Sacks aren't the only thing that matter in pass rushing. Gross also has to block for our running backs. His performance as not been worth his pay, SIMPLE and PLAIN.

Cut him, get money, draft a replacement.

Or do you like being good ole complacent Carolina every year?

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:50 PM

Dude it's okay, you can hang your Jordan Gross jersey up and it will be a cool way to remember him.

Sacks aren't the only thing that matter in pass rushing. Gross also has to block for our running backs. His performance as not been worth his pay, SIMPLE and PLAIN.

Cut him, get money, draft a replacement.

Or do you like being good ole complacent Carolina every year?


I'd rather be complacent with Gross than complacent with Fua, Hangartner, Nakamura, whoever lines up at RG this week.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:22 PM

I'd rather be complacent with Gross than complacent with Fua, Hangartner, Nakamura, whoever lines up at RG this week.


Yes, those 4 suck bad. That has nothing to do with Gross' salary or performance.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's good, but we can't continue to pay $10.5 million a year for "good". To put it in perspective, he earns way more than those other 4 combined.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:23 PM

If we can get him to not commit 33 false starts and holding penalties a game, then he might be useful.


i think he's only had three penalties this year.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:54 PM

Yes, those 4 suck bad. That has nothing to do with Gross' salary or performance.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's good, but we can't continue to pay $10.5 million a year for "good". To put it in perspective, he earns way more than those other 4 combined.


I'm just saying we have far too many more pressing needs than to be spending a top 5 pick on replacing a position that isn't one of our bigger problems.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 06:11 PM

Gross is the least of the worries on the oline. Way more pressing needs than to give up one of the 2 linemen on the team that's worth a damn. We need to draft a defensive tackle first and a guard or safety second.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:47 PM

When wanting to cut Gross due to age and declining play, remember John Kasay. The grass is not always greener. We've gone through how many kickers in the brief time since he was cut, and not one of them, or all of them put together into some sort of FrankenKicker can hold Kasay's jockstrap.

And that includes calling Kasay at his house this evening and having him come kick for us Sunday. Still better.


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