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#1 Doc Holiday

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:07 PM

What is the truth? Seems like a simple enough question, but not a so simple answer.

The Truth about Cam Newton in regards to how he's played this season?

That it doesn't matter. 2nd year slumps for QB's is not unheard of by any stretch of the imagination, Teams around the League now have tape on Cam's first season, they have picked up on his tendencies and exploited them, the fact that this season for Cam Newton isn't as good as last, is the least shocking thing in the history of anything. and Cam is going to have to learn to adjust to it.

Current starting QB's that have had Sophomore slumps: Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Sam Bradford and Drew Brees.

Josh freeman, Big Ben and Eli Manning had Junior Slumps

NFL QB's are usually adjusting to the NFL over their first 4 years in the league, with normally not seeing their better years as a starter until years 4-6.

it is important more important how Cam Newton is playing in years 4-6 then what he plays now because then he will be past his learning stage of his career, basically what we have in year 4 is what we got.

With that being said, Cam's QB Rating right now is 85.8 and last season was 84.5, if you adjust his QB rating to include his Rushing TD's his QB rating last year was 93.5 and this year 91.4. so either way you could say he's either slightly ahead of last year or slightly behind last year

Now the truth about the team, the Panthers know the long term success of the franchise, not only monetarily concerned but also just in winning games , playoff games and maybe even a Super Bowl depends on Cam Newton staying a Carolina Panther, if he leaves after year 6 then all of this has been for nothing.

As the saying goes Rome wasn't built in a day ya'll

The Panthers know this better then anyone and will move accordingly, our teams focus is not on this year, or next for that matter but really we are looking at years 4, 5, 6. for Cam Newton, those are the important ones, those are the ones we will actually be needing to be making the playoffs and winning games in the Playoffs, because if we are not winning by then, Cam Newton is going to leave Carolina LeBron James style and go to the best situation he believes he needs to go to.

and I know Cam's contract runs out after 4 years, but because of CBA rules and the Franchise tag there are really 2 more years on the contract, for 6 years total.

#2 Panther17

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:18 PM

3 more years. Player can be franchised a max of 3 times in his career according to current CBA rules and Drew Brees challenge to the meaning of the rule back in the summer. So Cam is stuck here for 7 years if Panthers are willing to tag him 3 times after rookie contract.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:18 PM

But his QBR is 49.5 this season. Clearly he sucks.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:20 PM

The big cat said that Cam will be his last Panther QB.

I think it was Kobe who said pro athletes are a lot like wrestlers. They love you. They hate you. They love you & so on.

Just win baby.

#5 TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:21 PM

The dude is an awesome football player... We keep him here a career he will be playing for 'ships

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:21 PM

QBR is such a joke stat. I've ranted on this elsewhere but "clutch" is a stupid myth in football. Next time the difference between winning and losing is a quarterback throwing the ball to himself let me know and I'll quantify it as clutch.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:22 PM

Cam. Is. Not. The. Problem.

Get new staff and you'll all be making excuses to why you said he sucks.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:27 PM

Cam is very good. Not yet elite, but can get there. The organization, however, is very poor. The team as a whole is average. THAT is where we are. There is work to do.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:28 PM

He's a great player and hope he stays...but also hope he matures. If he doesn't mature into a leader then he'll never win a superbowl. IMO for him to do that he needs to stop doing a bunch of the amateurish crap and focus on winning games. I'm sick of him celebrating every first down...leave that to the WRs. There are more demands mentally and physically for a QB and losing focus because you are happy you got a first down isn't the way to run a team. IMO its part of the reason he sucks at game winning drives..

So...I'll be ecstatic if this guy is the face of the franchise for the next decade or more. But he's gotta start doing the things that the great QBs do to win games. Right now he isn't doing it.


I will say that it's not all on him...I'm nit picking. The defense has been horrible at the end of games as has the OL and WRs. I think that Cam's mentality about the game and the rest of this team will be fixed when Ron Rivera is fired and someone else is hired.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:28 PM

Cam is very good. Not yet elite, but can get there. The organization, however, is very poor. The team as a whole is average. THAT is where we are. There is work to do.


I. . .agree? Whoa, suddenly I feel woozy.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:33 PM

Stats are overblown. Just win, baby.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 11:09 PM

Better coaching, plus improved team dynamics and communication = success

I want a cohesive group that really has an image on both sides of the ball

With Kuechly and Cam in place we can build on that along with the young guys who have stepped up (Alexander, Hardy, LaFell, Olsen, Norman)

And with the added players in this next draft, any fas, and with a new regime all together from GM to HC to OC, I think something good can happen in a limited amount of time. And I'm excited to see how Cam grows and hopefully figures out his true NFL game with a dynamic offense and solid coaching staff.

#13 Doc Holiday

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 06:04 AM

Cam. Is. Not. The. Problem.

Get new staff and you'll all be making excuses to why you said he sucks.

this may be a moot point because they are all probably gone at the end of the season anyway but...

I don't think Coaching staff is the Issue, we have the best DC of the last 10 years in the NFL as our HC, and Chud's running of the offense while has a few fans screaming he sucks has done a decent enough Job.

Ron Rivera didn't become the Panthers HC and suddenly forget how to Coach Defense, if he stays it will get better. there is just talent(Oline/WR/DB) gaps on offense and defense right now between where they are and where they need to be.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:58 AM

Cam has played very well the last few games. Hes missed some throws but hes still learning. Dude has ALL the talent in the world. Im getting tired of hearing about Cam this, Cam that, from the media. Whether its on field stuff or off the field stuff. Cam is the man and hes our QB. Get us while we are down.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:04 AM

Cam has played very well the last few games. Hes missed some throws but hes still learning. Dude has ALL the talent in the world. Im getting tired of hearing about Cam this, Cam that, from the media. Whether its on field stuff or off the field stuff. Cam is the man and hes our QB. Get us while we are down.

High winds blow on high hills. And on Mark Sanchez.


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