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#16 Bwood

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:57 AM

Hankins is the better player for us. Unless we can't retain Dwan Edwards then we could use Stars versatility.

But if we want a true pocket collapsing, aggressive playing nose tackle with experience against strong linemen, then Hankins is the better choice.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:32 AM

We will lose yet another coin toss !

#18 DaCityKats

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:43 AM

the raiders are in the bottom 5 in sacks, i think they go after the best pass rusher in the draft (Damontre Moore).they still have Tommy Kelly, and Richard Seymour and a 300+ pound DE in Lamar Houston who can play DT. but a good chance of Kelly and Seymour being released to free some cap space.

#19 j2sgam

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:01 PM

The days of the head-scratchin, flashy pick from the Raiders died with Al... I think Oakland is due for some change from what we are used to getting. Not saying Al is Jerruh, but he had his way....

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

4 games left, how many can we win? I doubt it's all of them. If it is, then hell yea! But seriously, We're going to finish 4-12 or 5-11.


I don't know. I think Ron has one more win in him AT MOST. No way we get 5 wins IMO. He'll blow it some how.

#21 Proudiddy

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:21 PM

So people think DT is our biggest need now?

Dwan and Ron are holding it down for now and I think Dwan has several quality years left. No doubt, we need to address it still, but I don't know that it is our #1 need.

I'm thinking Safety or a solid #2 CB (assuming Norman will be taking over Gamble's spot) are higher up there for now.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:01 PM

So were officially on the "Suck for Star" Campaign i see

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:15 PM

The D-line push has taken a nose dive the past couple of weeks after Ron got injured. He's old and injury prone. Dwan is serviceable but he needs somebody beside him....and Fua sucks ass. Star would be a definite upgrade to our situation but I keep hearing that this draft is deep in DTs. If the secondary and o-line talent lack depth in the later rounds this year, perhaps it would be better to select a top ranked player in one of those categories and go DT later on. But then again, by going that route, there's that possibility of finding another Fua in the rough...

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:18 PM

I'm just starting to accept the fact that both Joeckel and Star will be gone when we pick. Would be our luck with the way this season has gone,

Then we get to pick Reid! :D

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:33 PM

Then we get to pick Reid! :D


Andy Reid?

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He could coach and fill our need at NT. ;)

#26 SOJA

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:36 PM

how does Star compare to other top DT prospects- Suh, McCoy, and Dareus ?

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:23 PM

So were officially on the "Suck for Star" Campaign i see


Sub-par for Star

#28 micnificent28

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:14 PM

Star or bust....Nothing else will do.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:59 PM

how does Star compare to other top DT prospects- Suh, McCoy, and Dareus ?


In my opinion, less of a prospect than Suh but at least on par with, if not greater than, McCoy and Dareus. Star's burst off the snap is the quickest I've probably ever seen for a guy his size and he's very strong at the point of attack. He's not as polished as Dareus or as much of a pass rusher as McCoy but in terms of total package and potential I'd probably take him before the other two.

#30 SuperMan

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:45 PM

..you better hope that the Raiders start winning games or end up with a better record. Otherwise they will get Star Lotulelei instead of us.



Edit: Damn it, could a mod move this to the 'draft' section. I dun goofed.


What makes you think we can beat the raiders?


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