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Goodell considers changes to kickoff


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Honestly there are injuries every game, but I can't even remember the last time there was a major one on a kick return.

me neither

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So basically this single rule changes the entire game of football and it becomes just a game of who can cheese their punts the most.

No surprise this idiocy was Greg Schiano's idea.

I admit, I think it does make it almost an entirely different game. Part of me thinks it is really exciting, but it's hard to imagine eliminating an entire part of the game. How would returns both past and present be tracked?

Honestly, when I read it, I thought it kind of sounded like a rule for the XFL, lol. But, I think people would grow to like it if it was implemented. Do I think it will be? I doubt it.

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It's just an interesting concept floated to the commish by none other than our pal greg schiano

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It's just an interesting concept floated to the commish by none other than our pal greg schiano

Kickoffs are like way more dangerous than unexpectedly crashing the victory formation.

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So basically, if a team has a very good passing game, there's the potential in this proposed rule for an opposing team to literally not even touch the ball for 99% of the game. Worst idea I've ever heard.

well there's that...but even then, just provides even more reason to 1) improve your passing game and 2) score first and 3) have a defense that can cause turnovers just in case.

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So basically, if a team has a very good passing game, there's the potential in this proposed rule for an opposing team to literally not even touch the ball for 99% of the game. Worst idea I've ever heard.

Only in theory. The 4th and 15 would in reality only be used when the onsides kick would have been.

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well there's that...but even then, just provides even more reason to 1) improve your passing game and 2) score first and 3) have a defense that can cause turnovers just in case.

It's easy to just tell teams to get better to avoid it, but the current rules at least give teams a chance to be in the game.

With this rule, if you don't have a defense that can stop a 15 yard pass (absolutely WAY easier to make than an onside kick), then you can potentially go an entire season with only a handful of possessions.

What do you think that's gonna do for ticket sales for those teams? Teams like the Browns and Panthers still sell tickets because they at least are competitive and there's a chance of winning. But when it's week 11 and there's a 20:1 time of possession ratio against you all season because Nakamura can't stop these 4th downs, it's going to be a very different story.

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Only in theory. The 4th and 15 would in reality only be used when the onsides kick would have been.

It would be used a lot more. A 15 yard pass has absolutely higher chances of completion than an onside kick.

4th and 25 would be closer to matching the odds.

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Honestly there are injuries every game, but I can't even remember the last time there was a major one on a kick return. I have no idea why they put so much focus on changing them for the sake of injury when the majority of injuries come from simple things like your own team mate rolling over your leg.

agreed here.

since they took away the wedge injuries have come down on kickoffs. punt returns seem more dangerous to me but even then it's just to one person. but...supposedly there has been a lot of evidence over the years that there's a greater chance of injury during kickoff than pretty much any other time of the game, esp. more concussions.

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fwiw, this isn't the first time that eliminating kickoffs have been thought about.

In an interview with Giants.com, owner John Mara, a member of the NFL’s competition committee, says that he can envision a day in the future when NFL games are played without kickoffs. Mara was talking about the changes implemented before last season, where the league returned the kickoff line to the 35 yard line and limited the coverage team to lining up within 5 yards of the kickoff.

Last year, touchbacks rose from 16.4% to 43.4%, while the average yards per return rose to 23.8, the highest since kickoff stats were recorded in 1941. More importantly to the competition committee, as the rule was implemented to reduce reductions, it was viewed as a success.

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/04/14/giants-owner-john-mara-sees-a-day-when-kickoffs-will-no-longer-be-part-of-football/

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If this happens, we had better find a new punter quick.

The huddle would melt down completely after one of Nortman's six yard shanks

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If you want to eliminate kick offs, eliminate them. Starting at the 20 every time would probably also have the side effect of higher scoring games, which is fun.

But don't make up some idiotic red rover game to replace them.

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