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For those of you grabbing a life vest and jumping off the Cam ship, you bettet make sure it's sinking


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#51 Doc Holiday

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:32 PM

Haven't seen many jumping, unless you define any valid criticism as such.

you pretty much can't sneeze around here without someone thinking its hatin on Cam, really getting annoyed with it. Half these babies would not have known what to do around here when Delhomme was QB. Now there was some hatin going around then, it was epic

#52 Doc Holiday

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:33 PM

more unvalid ones than valid ones.

no point in dwelling on on things too much when talking about a 2nd year player who is producing......takes time for most of his issues.

i don't think so, too many Cam Jock sniffers around here to get a real conversation going

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:47 PM

Yeah Doc Holiday, it you looks like you are being so persecuted here. You poor thing.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:00 PM

It seems funny to me that Cam is getting all this criticism and is perceived to be struggling when his numbers are pretty much on par with last year except for the rushing TD's. Completion % down 2 points, passing TD's per game is down 0.1 per game, but his INT's are down this year and his QB rating is up from last year.

I also love to compare Cam's numbers to Luck's since everyone thinks Luck is just having this great year. Luck is completing a lower % of his passes compared to Cam this year or last, total TD's Cam has 20 and Luck has 22, Cam has a higher QB rating, and Cam has 18 turnovers compared to Luck's 25. I know Luck's team has won more games but it's a TEAM game and it takes more than just the QB to win games.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:34 PM

Stop making these threads. Ur usually such a good poster SCP smh...

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:58 PM

you pretty much can't sneeze around here without someone thinking its hatin on Cam, really getting annoyed with it. Half these babies would not have known what to do around here when Delhomme was QB. Now there was some hatin going around then, it was epic

Bwaaaaahahaha! Ahhhhhhhahaha! "It was worse with Ja..." Aaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaa!

#57 theyhateme45

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:59 PM

cam is the most polarizing player the panthers have ever had, and that includes delhomme. other players have been scrutinized, yes, but not to this degree.


Just my opinion, but it depends on what you are basing this statement on. Jake was By FAR the most polarizing panther on this board... There was a large group of huddlers who felt Jake did little wrong, and those who blamed everything on him and always wanted him gone. The same battle every day for a few years... Cam has the support of the overwhelming majority of this board, though some have legit criticisms on him (Some I agree some I disagree) but still people don't hate him and want him gone... just to mature in some areas and improve on some weaknesses.

Now for the outside media... Cam is probably the most polarizing panther, though I feel a lot of that is due to cam being one of the few national popular panthers we've had that was worthy of ESPN discussions (By their standards)

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:06 PM

It seems funny to me that Cam is getting all this criticism and is perceived to be struggling when his numbers are pretty much on par with last year except for the rushing TD's. Completion % down 2 points, passing TD's per game is down 0.1 per game, but his INT's are down this year and his QB rating is up from last year.

I also love to compare Cam's numbers to Luck's since everyone thinks Luck is just having this great year. Luck is completing a lower % of his passes compared to Cam this year or last, total TD's Cam has 20 and Luck has 22, Cam has a higher QB rating, and Cam has 18 turnovers compared to Luck's 25. I know Luck's team has won more games but it's a TEAM game and it takes more than just the QB to win games.


You can select numbers to show what you want a lot of times... One could also argue Luck throws more than almost any QB in the NFL, is being asked to do wayyy more, and therefore has caused more turnovers... One could also say look at the number of Game winning drives he has had... and statistically his defense is worst than Carolina's....

While Cam has played well as of lately a lot of criticism is coming from the eye test...From Us watching and seeing mistakes we feel Cam is capable of correcting and fixing. We all know Cam has Excellent potential, probably more than any other QB right now, so when he underachieves to what we know he should be capable of, it starts conversation.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:29 PM

can always jump aboard the panther ship,


we have plenty of room....well its more like a submarine.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:33 PM

It seems funny to me that Cam is getting all this criticism and is perceived to be struggling when his numbers are pretty much on par with last year except for the rushing TD's. Completion % down 2 points, passing TD's per game is down 0.1 per game, but his INT's are down this year and his QB rating is up from last year.

I also love to compare Cam's numbers to Luck's since everyone thinks Luck is just having this great year. Luck is completing a lower % of his passes compared to Cam this year or last, total TD's Cam has 20 and Luck has 22, Cam has a higher QB rating, and Cam has 18 turnovers compared to Luck's 25. I know Luck's team has won more games but it's a TEAM game and it takes more than just the QB to win games.


It gets old to me too.

For example, I think just about everyone would agree that Cam attempts more intermediate to deep passes than Luck. Those are the passes that typically lower your completion %. Yet Cam has a higher completion % than Luck.

My question is this...why do we never hear anyone talk about how Luck needs to improve his accuracy, but we hear that all the time about Cam on this board? Can someone please explain that to me?


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