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#41 Who Said What?

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:30 PM

He does not play great man to man.He has been burned all year long


I remember how good he looked against VJax in the opener, Julio Jones the game in ATL, and Brandon Marshall. Oh, and lets not forget how well he played against Colston who usually murders us. These were the few games we played some man press coverage all year. I know you are not talking about the Giants game or the last drive of the Bears game because I thought we all knew that was a schematic problem. He has gotten beat over the top from press coverage once all year and that was against Miles Austin. Kid has skills and tackles well. Our D-coordinator is weak and our schemes have been mediocre all year. A kid shuts down VJax one week and then is so scared he gives Ramses Barden a thirteen yard cushion all game the following week. I can see why given the option he would choose to do that.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:38 PM

It's definitely the scheme, definitely

No way if it was up to Norman he wouldn't play press

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:40 PM

Even IF the coaches require Norman to give a 15 yard cushion he shouldn't be on the field and obviously sucks. Can anyone tell me if Dockery played that far off?


well RR has commented several times that Norman hasn't played many of those "soft" looks well....

there is a reason why in those "soft" looks....Norman is the only one routinely picked on despite another young scrub opposite him.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:40 PM

Nakamura wasn't benched why, then?


There definitely seems to be a double standard with this coaching staff.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:41 PM

Dockery was actually very good. Josh thomas was solid, Captain is cap. D.J. impressed me the most, tackling Gonzo in the open field like that and getting him out of bounds is not easy. Gonzo knows how to make you miss.


that, and Jones seemed to be around the ball almost every single play

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:50 PM

There definitely seems to be a double standard with this coaching staff.



Nakamura was benched though. In the second half it was all Jones.

As far as Norman, I haven't been as high on high as others. Not only is he giving up so much cushion at the line, every pass attempt in his direction is completed because he's never in a position to break up a pass or get contact quick enough to knock the ball out. If the problem is really schematic, why does Thomas look so much better in coverage?

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:56 PM

Nakamura was benched though. In the second half it was all Jones.

As far as Norman, I haven't been as high on high as others. Not only is he giving up so much cushion at the line, every pass attempt in his direction is completed because he's never in a position to break up a pass or get contact quick enough to knock the ball out. If the problem is really schematic, why does Thomas look so much better in coverage?


Naka wasn't benched. He was hurt.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:03 PM

Fwiw I did hear Norman in the radio earlier this year and when asked about the differences between college and the pros he said he was having to learn to play off of the receiver. Something about making the receiver commit to his route withing 5 yards.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:06 PM

Nakamura was benched though. In the second half it was all Jones.

As far as Norman, I haven't been as high on high as others. Not only is he giving up so much cushion at the line, every pass attempt in his direction is completed because he's never in a position to break up a pass or get contact quick enough to knock the ball out. If the problem is really schematic, why does Thomas look so much better in coverage?


You ask a valid question and Thomas may just be better. My post related strictly to Naka. It is monday and I did not make myself clear; my fault.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:09 PM

As hopeful as I am about Norman, inflated tackle numbers and some poo talking is about the bulk of what he's shown. This ball hawking shutdown potential corner that we heard about in training camp didn't show up for the season. He reminded everyone that rookies of his caliber rarely get it going in their first season.

I still believe he can be a player, but Rivera "seeing what else we have" is very telling. If I'm Josh Norman I am doing what ever I can to get back on the field.

As far as this cushion discussion is concerned, cushion isn't just where the player lines up pre snap, its also how deep the player plays the coverage. Norman plays to far off of his man before the snap and after. I agree with those that believe this has to be a major part of his benching.


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