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Will Beason be a Panther next year?

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not sure if you realize but beason has had 2 surgeries this year.knee and shoulder

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Actually the cap hit as a June 1st designation will be 6 million for 2013 and 2014 which is the 3 years of 4 million apiece split between 2 years.

That is how I understood the implications of June 1st cuts as well until about 2 months ago. One of the posters here (don't remember who exactly) claimed that under the current CBA, June 1st cuts are charged with the 1st year allocation equal to what was designated for that contract year (in this case, $4 million) with the balance hitting the next year. After doing some research, I found that is indeed correct. It is still spread over two years, but the hit is not equal.

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I think that rumors of Beason's demise may be premature. I told everyone he would struggle this year so I don't know why folks were surprised. On the other hand, by next year he could start for us and do a good job. While I agree he would be an expensive linebacker next year, I think I would try and restructure his contract next year and keep him and make decisions to trade or cut him until 2014 when we know what he can or can't do. He is still a leader on this team and one which has been sorely missed.

Beason will struggle next year for some of the same reasons he was going to be struggling this year....

I think Beason was a great leader but in many aspects I think he could be someone to get in Luke's way going forward. This is going to be Luke's D going forward IMO. Too many chefs in the kitchen sometimes doesn't work.

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Look at this and answer the question yourself:

7/29/2011: Signed a six-year, $51.338 million contract. The deal contains $25 million guaranteed, including a $20 million signing bonus.

2012: $1.25 million

2013: $5.25 million

2014: $6.5 million

2015: $7.5 million

2016: $8.75 million

2017: Free Agent

Let's just put it this way- release Beason and it becomes a cap hit unlike much of the league has never seen before. The cap hit would make Sean Gilbert's look minimal.

What do those figures represent? They don't add up to 25, 20, or 51. All that matters is how much of his signing bonus is left to pay.

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What do those figures represent? They don't add up to 25, 20, or 51. All that matters is how much of his signing bonus is left to pay.

The cap hit is about $13M if they release him at the end of this year- see panther55's post on the previous page...

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not sure if you realize but beason has had 2 surgeries this year.knee and shoulder

But the issue with Beason is still that the Achillles surgery limited him and kept him from being in football shape which impacted getting hurt again.

The labrum in the shoulder was torn but depending on the size and location may or may not have been season ending. As for the knee surgery, that was a simple scope to check out the strained knee and wasn't serious. If we had needed him back he might have been kept from IR if he had been healthy otherwise. But given he was struggling, we had Kuechly, and signed him to a long contract, there was no reason to not put him on IR.

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The cap hit is about $13M if they release him at the end of this year- see panther55's post on the previous page...

But again keep in mind we can take the hit over 2 years with the majority hitting in 2014. A lot depends on what they want to do with the rest of the roster.

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That is how I understood the implications of June 1st cuts as well until about 2 months ago. One of the posters here (don't remember who exactly) claimed that under the current CBA, June 1st cuts are charged with the 1st year allocation equal to what was designated for that contract year (in this case, $4 million) with the balance hitting the next year. After doing some research, I found that is indeed correct. It is still spread over two years, but the hit is not equal.

I would be interested in seeing that link. I was unaware of that.

This link doesn't mention it at all.

http://www.askthecommish.com/SalaryCap/faq.aspx

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Beason will struggle next year for some of the same reasons he was going to be struggling this year....

I think Beason was a great leader but in many aspects I think he could be someone to get in Luke's way going forward. This is going to be Luke's D going forward IMO. Too many chefs in the kitchen sometimes doesn't work.

I think the salary implications are the biggest impediment to trading him or releasing him. Otherwise I think he would be a target of a new GM in looking to save salary or cut players. The same with Gross and frankly Gamble.

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What do those figures represent? They don't add up to 25, 20, or 51. All that matters is how much of his signing bonus is left to pay.

$20 million was the signing bonus. The other figures listed by year are his salary for each year. Add them all up and it comes to about $49 million and some change. The rest is probably made up in roster bonuses and misc incentives.

There is none of the signing bonus left to pay. Don't confuse cap charge with dollars out of pocket. The $12 or $13 million cited throughout this thread refers to cap charges we have to take, not money due to Jon.

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He hasn't played quality football in two years and is being paid like an elite, pro bowl player. I hope he comes back 100%, but I seriously doubt it. Beason will restructure or get cut. No team will keep paying big money to a player that doesn't deserve it for fear of taking a cap hit. This is ultimately a business.

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Please do not remind me. Beason will have to be brought in slowly.

Poor JR. Being the businessman that he is, I'm sure he hated pissing away 12.5 million dollars for nothing. Perhaps that's why he got so cheap the following season? Wallet PTSD?

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