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#41 Shonuff

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:30 PM

I don't post here often but stated it a while back. Cam is playing much better this year, he's actually had to play QB versus using a host of gimmick plays. I think Chud is adjusting, calling better plays, etc. I think they stuck with their initial game (season) plan (heavy read option) too long on the offensive side of the ball. It confused Cam a little, plays took too long to develop and Cam went into sack and scramble mode. Neither Stew or Angelo are read-option type RBs....it cost the Panthers a shot at the playoffs..

Cam still has trouble with short touch passes but anything across the middle, sideline or downfield is a laser and usually on target. A previous poster stated Cam has the best arm in the league, I disagree, he has the strongest arm which could be the best. A slight improvement in accuracy anbd he'll easily go over 60% completion rate. Can Cam be elite? Yes, let's not kid ourselves, he's got a ways to go just to make the team a playoff contender.

Lastly, if the team goes 2-1 or 3-0, Rivera should get another year...

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

I don't post here often but stated it a while back. Cam is playing much better this year, he's actually had to play QB versus using a host of gimmick plays. I think Chud is adjusting, calling better plays, etc. I think they stuck with their initial game (season) plan (heavy read option) too long on the offensive side of the ball. It confused Cam a little, plays took too long to develop and Cam went into sack and scramble mode. Neither Stew or Angelo are read-option type RBs....it cost the Panthers a shot at the playoffs..

Cam still has trouble with short touch passes but anything across the middle, sideline or downfield is a laser and usually on target. A previous poster stated Cam has the best arm in the league, I disagree, he has the strongest arm which could be the best. A slight improvement in accuracy anbd he'll easily go over 60% completion rate. Can Cam be elite? Yes, let's not kid ourselves, he's got a ways to go just to make the team a playoff contender.

Lastly, if the team goes 2-1 or 3-0, Rivera should get another year...


Stewart is an option RB....but he needs to be healthy. Even when "healthy" this year he was hurt.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:38 PM

If you look at tiny portions of anything.....you can make an argument for almost anything.

Even when his numbers were poor.....Cam didn't look like he took a step back IMO. Same guy, stats always fluctuate for many reasons.

Run game and OL protection have hampered him more than him really slumping personally.....and Chud being a retard.

if I have to explain offensive game plan management to you one more time, I think I'm going to freak out.

Weeks 1-10 is not a small portion of the season it's freakin 2/3 of it and 3/4 of the games played so far, I know this destroys your argument but at least be intellectually honest enough to admit you are wrong.

I have before, use it as a learning experience.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:43 PM

if I have to explain offensive game plan management to you one more time, I think I'm going to freak out.

Weeks 1-10 is not a small portion of the season it's freakin 2/3 of it and 3/4 of the games played so far, I know this destroys your argument but at least be intellectually honest enough to admit you are wrong.

I have before, use it as a learning experience.

lol....

simple question, did Newton play poorly the first q of the season or have one bad game?

the point was, Newton never slumped. It was the media jumping on one prime time game and using that to explain all our problems.

His numbers dipped b/c of obvious steps backwards in other spots. Eye test shows Newton brings exactly what he did last year. Eye test and stats shows other spots legitimately took big steps backwards....

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:46 PM

Im glad everyone loves those other fine young males. It was annoying when everyone liked the Panthers and Cam like they love RG3 and the Redskins now.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:46 PM

lol....

simple question, did Newton play poorly the first q of the season or have one bad game?

Bucs game, Giants game, super easy

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:07 PM

Bucs game, Giants game, super easy


Newton completed 70% of his passes, RBs literally combined for 0 yards. Do me a favor, name the last time that occured in a NFL game. Newton being forced to gamble late with no help in hopes to win.....is NOT poor QB play. Big difference between a QB playing poor vs a team not showing up.

so like I said, first q was 1 poor game. Media turned that game into his slump and slung that song and dance across the board.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:41 PM

Now if this can all happen before week one...

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:57 PM

everybody knows if your qb throws a INT in a game, you dont win.also means your qb had a bad game.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:16 PM

PFF, who were quite harsh on cam last year, have Cam grading positively in 8 games in the passing game (so excluding his runs), negatively 4 times and once they had him graded evenly. I know that many will disregard their gradings, but they have graded him making a definite improvement over 2011.

He really has only had 4 poor games this year, nyg, Seattle, Chicago and Denver. To say he played poorly in the other games is a little extreme.


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